Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 15, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From the Rocky Mountain News- "Football coach Dan Hawkins said most of his incoming freshmen already are on campus, including prized running back Darrell Scott. . . . Former CU assistant Bob Simmons has returned with his family to Colorado. He has made stops at Oklahoma State, Notre Dame and Washington. . . . Hawkins shot 107 at Monday's annual CU golf outing. "I'd rather have been home watching video," he said.

Posted by archalon on July 15, 2008 at 7:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Football program driving the fund raising ?
Suites sold out ?
$2 million surplus ?
Basketball and volleyball upgrades ?

Sounds all positive to me.

Cue rswright - wherever he is lurking. Im sure we are all looking forward to his diatribes once again

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 15, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Denver Post, 3 papers, 3 different stories all at the same event!!! "Credits for a required algebra class, or lack thereof, prevented Colorado's star football signee from enrolling in June as planned, but CU running backs coach Darian Hagan believes tailback Darrell Scott will be ready to show his stuff in August drills.

Hagan said Scott, from suburban Los Angeles, is due to arrive in Boulder this week for freshman orientation after completing the high school math course.

A 6-foot-2, 215-pounder, Scott rushed for 2,433 yards and 33 touchdowns last fall for Ventura (Calif.) St. Bonaventure and was ranked as high as the nation's No. 2 overall prospect by Internet recruiting sites.

"Coming in early might have helped Darrell, getting to work out with his teammates and running the offense with them," Hagan said Monday during the annual CU golf day at Pelican Lakes Golf and Country Club. "He's been spending all his time studying. But with his body, it's hard for him to get out of shape.

"I've been talking to him over the phone about (defensive) coverages and the running game. But really, with a guy that talented, you don't want to put too much in his head too soon. You just give him the ball."

Colorado coach Dan Hawkins said he does not anticipate any academic casualties among his freshman class.

A little hairy.

Hawkins said one of the best things about taking the family to Peru to see Machu Picchu recently was climbing the cone-shaped mountain at the ancient Inca city. "You have to be kind of agile; it's about a 5,000- or 6,000-foot drop down to the river and it clears up the gene pool in a hurry," Hawkins said with a grin. "I looked to see how Cody was doing and (his wife) Misti said, 'You have other children here.' I told her (jokingly) that it's one thing to lose a child and it's another thing to lose your starting quarterback!"

Posted by bzainthemd on July 15, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

C'mon Rswright, where are you on this one?

Posted by JohnCronin on July 15, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hope Darrell likes it here.

Posted by archalon on July 15, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

At least there wasnt a " starting quarterback eaten my swarm of tarantulas" headline. That would have been a college football first I believe.

Posted by rswright on July 15, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"There simply isn't time to hit the driving range when your program is driving the fundraising for the entire department."

What driving range? Bohn can't even make arrangements for golf to play home matches, let alone a driving range.

No point going over this again. You guys all know that football gets the extras while the non revenue sports don't get the basics. Does it all sound positive when our coaches are still 11th out of 12 in salaries. If there were enough football fans to cause the 2 million dollar surplus that would be positive, there aren't. The 2 million dollar surplus came from TV revenues. There has been no increase in season ticket sales this year. Still sound positive? When CU starts having sell outs when the better teams don't play,football pays the 8 million back to the students, and Neill can say truthfully there have been upgrades "across the board" that would be positive. There are as many students who play other sports as play football and CU is about students first, luxury box seats for fans second.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 15, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And there he is, right on cue!

Rs, what we do know is that you keep on complaining about how bad our tennis and "non-revenue" sports facilities are when you said yourself you have nada to compare it to. You said yourself, back in one of your other endless rants, that you don't know what other schools' tennis facilities are like since you have never seen them yourself in person.

"That excess revenue beyond our projections was huge for us," Bohn said. "Obviously, that's tied to football ticket sales and that's why it's so important to have that support there that generates the support for ALL THE PROGRAMS."

Are you calling Bohn a liar? Do you really know CU's sports finances better than our AD?

And by the way, you most hated asset, our luxury boxes, are sold out for the season. Do you doubt what kind of revenue that brings in? Why do you think that the Sonics owners want to move them to Oklahoma City? Get real man.

Posted by ralphie9677 on July 15, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

But you have to live and go to OU to play at the tennis facility. Reason enough not to care.

Posted by ralphie9677 on July 15, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who cares?

Posted by Kelly5280 on July 15, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"A new floor will be installed at the Coors Events Center this month with the old floor being moved to Balch Fieldhouse where it can still be used to practice on."

Isn't Balch Fieldhouse the indoor track where Wetmore's team practices? Considering the stellar year he's had shouldn't his track stars have priority on the indoor track?

Posted by RalphieRepresentah4 on July 15, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

by who?must be some redneck publication that's never been outside brokelahoma.the best place in that whole state is the geographical center,that way any direction you go you're on you're way out.

Posted by ruffemupbuffaloes on July 15, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Money Magazine is the source, their annual survey, and tall is right, Norman is #6 this year. Article is in the DC today.

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 15, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kelly- Have you ever been in the field house??? Plenty of room and yes Wetmore's team will have priority

Posted by ralphie9677 on July 15, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good for Norman, but who in Colorado would choose to live in Norman over pretty much any other city or town in Colorado? I tend to think very few.

Posted by NCBUFF on July 15, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And here's the tennis courts for Talli's beloved Huskers.

http://www.broons.com/images/Tennis%2...

SHUT UP TALLI & RSWRONG and GO BUFFS!!

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 15, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kenneth, If CNN (Clinton News Network) says it's a good place to live then I hope I never step foot in that city!

Posted by extrapoint on July 15, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey guys
I'm packin up and movin to Norman
I'm gonna dodge tornados, scratch chiggers, cry like a baby when the AC goes out and go on an endless search for a decent restuarant.
Besides
I'm tired of skiing, trout fishing and lookin at those ugly ol mountains.

No 6 here I come......and whatever else money magazine recommends, count me in!

HOOOEEEE!

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 15, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bricktown looks about as fun as Branson!!! i'll stick to the denver metro area

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 15, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kenneth, I said the Denver Metro Area, as in Arvada being 15minutes for great food and entertainment in Denver and 15minutes from Boulder,one of the most beautiful cities in America

Posted by neb_cu_buff on July 15, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SO IN CASE ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW THE STATUS OF OUR MAIN MAN DARRELL SCOTT AND HIS FEELINGS COMING INTO BOULDER:

I recently added Mr Scott to my Facebook page and he accepted it and he came online, so I had the opportunity to chat with Darrell for like half an hour or so about everything CU and his status and what not. Here is what I found out and here is what DS is all about:... very cool to pass along to you guys:

First: He says he has been working out all summer and just learning the offensive playbook (while not in Boulder).

Second: He is officially going to arrive in Boulder tomorrow (Wednesday, July 16).

Third: He says he thinks the CU offense, including the No-huddle, shotgun style is "tight". So he loves the Offense.

Fourth: He says while he is in Boulder he just wants to lay low and stay out of trouble. He says he doesn't like to get crazy like some of them do or have done already. That's good.

Fifth: A DS quote: "yeah I'm so ready to get this thing going already. wish the CSU game was tomorrow lol. god I can't wait" So he is excited for the season, as we all should be.

Sixth: I told him he needs to come up with some kind of a salute or hand gesture everytime the Rams chase him into the endzone for a score LOL.. he likes that idea.

Seventh: Then I asked him why he chose CU overall and also what other games he is looking forward to... DS quote: "just the relationship I had with coach Hagan, The great offical visit I had, and the games I'm looking forward to are WV,TX,and FSU"

FINALLY: He says they are going to beat Nebraska this year, no doubt, but he isn't going to get into the whole rivalry with them yet "at this point". Then he finally said he just wants to see the crowd be really into the game and loud and that's what he FEEDS OFF OF.

Let me know what you guys thinks of this. GO BUFFS! Darrell is a very nice guy, is really excited to be playing for CU, he seems real dedicated, and should be a great addition to the program, personality wise and of course, athletic ability.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on July 15, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

great stuff, can't wait to see the running game, should really take the pressure off Cody so we will get to see his best stuff as well, the o is looking good

Posted by MDBuff on July 15, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

neb_cu_buff - thanks - that's great stuff! Can't wait for D. Scott to tear it up!

Posted by neb_cu_buff on July 15, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like he is ready to tear it up too. He wants the season to start ASAP! And he wants that starting job.

Posted by buff4life on July 15, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dont worry too much about what ol tally errrrrrrr dr tom says....the poor sap is still pouting over what happened to his sorry buskers in 2001 when pesavento and crew completely DISMANTLED the "so-called" number one team in the BCS and made them the laughing stock of college football---remember-how can a team play for a national title and cant even win there own conference title game?? and then got HAMMERED by the canes....62-36 makes that tally chump revert to silly stuff like "are tennis courts and volleyball nets are better than yours" are you still mad that we got two so-called good husker coaches fired, have another cold one frankie boy and bill "playbooks the size of phonebooks" callahan.... how is that heisman trophy winner erin crouch doing these days--i think they just found his jawbone buried deep deep under the 30 yard line at folsom...only a true nimrod bad mouths another program while his "pinkshirts" have done what for the past 10 years???? let me help ya tally errrr tommyboy, pay attention now...NO BCS WINS OR GAMES, NO TOP TEN TEAMS, NO BIG 12 TITLES, BLOWN OUT BY TECH-77 LOL , KSTATE AND THE MIGHTY BUFFS, NO HEISMANS-JAMAAL LORD WAS CLOSE LOL, AND THE ONLY MEANIGNFUL WINS VERSUS a sorry michigan and tired barnett team...wow!!! impressive...but hey way to go on 95,000 at the spring game and hiring a coach that likes to run across the field after games and threaten kstate coaches, oh yea and players headbutting bandmembers is kool also. 62-36 dismantled your pathetic program and it still on life support. ask barb stoops and the punk sooners how good a coach dan is with a freshman qb, 27-24 ANY QUESTIONS??? welcome to boulder darrell and the new buffs, cant wait to see you run for 200 yards and 5 tds against the pinkshirts on turkey day. this just in....chris brown just scored again!!! i know i know tally "our gold -plated weightrooms and locker room toilets are better than yours"--tally has the pictures to prove it. and dont even get me started on that loser osbourne who "instructed" his players to quit in the 1990 bowl game versus ga tech so that the buffs wouldnt win the national title and then quit when the big 8 became big 12 cuz he didnt want to play those big bad texas schools....glad to see your legend hero is nothing more than a yellow-bellied coward..typical nebraskans......keep bad mouthing us and boulder you clown and maybe when you girls finally win a "meaningful" game we wont just laugh at your nonsense...norman or lincoln better than boulder--you are smoking way too much "special" corn buddy, but 62-36 will do that i guess....love that husker first 5-6 games at home schedule---its just sad and pathetic---thank god im a cu fan. GO BUFFS!!!!!

Posted by buff4life on July 15, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

YIKES..... i posted a frikkn novel....why you get me started tommyboy and what is a tallisal anyway? probably some knock on sal RIP....typical angry husker fans....

Posted by rodrigo on July 15, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

neb_cu_buff,

Nice.

Kenneth, meet Darryl. Get used to that name. And Ray. But don't forget Cody. For the next three + years they'll be preceded by the words "touchdown."

Posted by sintona on July 15, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That list you clowns are referring to is for the best "small cities." In any case, their criteria is clearly missing some key components. All those places listed are shi t holes.

Posted by neb_cu_buff on July 15, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HAHA! lmao. Go Buff4life!! I'm with ya on that great novel you just published on buffzone.com. lol. It's all true too. No nonsense there, just the truth that NU fans still can't, and probably won't ever accept. haha. go buffs

Posted by rswright on July 15, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Obviously, that's tied to football ticket sales.." is not saying that the surplus was because of an increase in ticket sales. Don't have to call Bohn a liar to know that the surplus came from increased tv money.

As far as ticket sales go, it would be great if there were enough fans to fill Folsom but there aren't. Kyle says that there has been no increase in season ticket sales for 2008. CU can't fill Folsom every week even with it being 2/3 the size of both NU and OU without paper. And the fans we do have let the student's pay for football's deficits. The future lies with Hawk. Hopefully he will attract new fans because the ones we have don't cut it.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 15, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rswright,
Here you go again trying to twist words. Read the quote again:

"That excess revenue beyond our projections was huge for us," Bohn said. "Obviously, that's tied to football ticket sales and that's why it's so important to have that support there that generates the support for all the programs."

The excess revenue??? You can easily swap the words excess with surplus. If you can't make that correlation, man, I hope you didn't graduate from CU. That would speak poorly for our english department.

Also, are you saying that CU students are the only students who pay for tickets? Try again. And guess what, and I know we've discussed this before, schools in major metropolitan areas don't sell out every game all the time, especially when the team isn't winning. It is a shame, but it is reality, and CU is not alone. Check USC and UCLA's history. You are right about something though, the future does lie with Hawk and he's doing a fine job so far. Go Buffs.

Posted by Ralphie2 on July 15, 2008 at 9:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WE NEED A HUGE DONATION...STAT!!!

What about the Crocs' owner?

Posted by extrapoint on July 15, 2008 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

spending the evening in Santa Fe on a busines trip. Had dinner in one of the 4 star eateries close to the plaza. something was missing, though. Maybe it was that ambiance that is so prevalent in Okie City.

Do they have Runzas yet?

Posted by GoBuffs07 on July 16, 2008 at 7:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

how about winning more than 6 games a year or more than 12 in basketball before spending all this money on these losers.

Posted by extrapoint on July 16, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Tall

Posted by DCBuff on July 16, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the post neb_cu_buff....I can;t wait 'til the season starts!! Go Buffs!!

Posted by nwbuff32 on July 16, 2008 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hearing rumblings that Rriar Geer will be eligible for the fall.

Posted by bouldabuff on July 16, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nwbuff32 - that would be great news. Geer has been allowed to practice with the team this summer right?

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 16, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

what it should say is "Kenneth is a broken record"

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 16, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

HAHAHA, Same Media that had Michigan in the top 5 last year? Or the Media that thought it would be a good idea to have kNU play for a national title after getting KILLED by CU?

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Preseason polls had Nebraska in the top 25 before the season last year...how did that work out?

Preaseason polls are worthless - they just help sell magazines and keep theses "experts" employed all year when there's no football being played.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on July 16, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

strip away the nice-as-can-be shell and the huskers are all exactly like kenny

as for RS, our fans do cut it, we just don't have enough of them to sell out every game, so shove that in your corncob pipe

buff4life, you just made my day, calahan was doomed with a playbook more than 3 pages long, it took osbourne years to get the huskers to understand the difference between run right, run left, and run up the middle

sintona, fort collins can be a cool place, but highlands ranch??? what is this? best cities for peeping toms?

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 16, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Genius Kenneth, I like it!!!

North
Missouri
Kansas
CU (not far behind Kansas)
Nebraska(way behind and get 60 dropped on them more than once!)
Kansas State
ISU

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's my preseason prediction:

1) CU will beat Nebraska.
2) Hawk will out-recruit, and out-coach the Pelini Brothers.
3) Boulder will continue to be a better place to live than Lincoln.
4) CU fans will be excited about their program.
5) Cody will continues to be 5'11".
6) Tall will conveniently be out squirrel hunting after every CU win, and will never shut up about his man crushes on Stoops and Bo.
7) Tall will never convince one person on this board that we should get rid of Hawk.
8) Nebraska Stinks!

Put it on the board.

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on July 16, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

haha, nice work baBuff

Posted by archalon on July 16, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Predictions ?
Kansas will slip, Mizzou will remain solid for another year, Huskers will win 5-6 ( but not against CU), CU will come in second in the North and be this year's "surprise" team, like KU last year.

Tall wont be laughing if CU is 3-1 or better heading into conf play, though Im sure he'll claim Cody is 5'3" by then.

Balance of power shifts back towards CU\NU in 2009, as Mizzou and KU sink back to long term mediocrity by 2010.

Posted by Black_Rob on July 16, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

kenneth, do you cut & paste this stuff?

Posted by edawg on July 16, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tall-
Quit being a troll.
None of us really care what you think.
You add no value to the discussion, other than to try and ruffle feathers. It seems after your pathetic identity was revealed, your vitriol has been spewed with more lameness than usual. I recommend that you know your role and shut your mouth.

Besides, who cares about Tennis anyway.

As far as predictions
1)Bugeaters will not go to a bowl game once again.
2)CU will sweep the south once again
3)Illegal Pete's continues to be delicious
4)CU will lose a game that it shouldn't (KSU, ISU, CSU come to mind here)
5)CU will win two games that it shouldn't (UT, WVU, KU, Missou come to mind here)
6) CU will be in a bowl game that it hasn't been to in awhile (Would love to see them in the Holiday Bowl)
7) Tall will not move out with his mother, but will continue to die a long, lonely, painful death in Texas.

Posted by nhilo32 on July 16, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MU - solid team wins north (dammit)
CU - lots of questions, I like what I see, most media and teams aren't paying attention yet (I am biased, big fan)
NU - chock full of talent, pelini will get D backup to snuff and going back to run right, run left, run up the middle will help
KU - will be exposed as the pretenders they are
KSU
ISU

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KSU has so many Juco players - they shouldn't even be allowed to play D1 football. They should just officially join a JC conference and attempt to dominate there.

This smacks of desperation on the part of Prince, or at the very least, a total lack of confidence in his existing roster. That team chemistry must be all messed up with all these kids coming in.

Posted by nwbuff32 on July 16, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tal is not a troll, he is a buff through and through.

Posted by nwbuff32 on July 16, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now I am hearing rumblings that Darrell Scott has been in the AD to sign paperworks so he can start practicing right away.

Good news today if all of this is true. Rriar Geer getting eligible and D Scott on campus, very nice.

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is that Riar news official, I've only heard the rumors? Is he "eligible" or "cleared to play"? I have no faith that OJA will let him play this year, regardless of what the courts say. I'm hopeful though.

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way DC, you forgot the "e" in the word upgrades in the title to this column.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on July 16, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

B12 North
1. CU - I for one will not wait for 2009
2. MU - best schedule but can't beat the buffs at home
3. KU - Mangino can't solve the Hawkins riddle
4. ISU - Chizik makes some strides
5. KSU - no chemistry, team implodes
6. NU - from bad to just stinkin awful

Posted by rodrigo on July 16, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Somebody ask Bob Stoops and Mike Leach if Hawkins belongs in the Big 12.

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone else getting sick of the "..." crap? Hawk already proved he belongs by turning a sorry, out-of-shape, scandal-ridden team into a team that can beat the best schools in the country in 2 years. He's also proven to be able to recruit with the "Big Boys".

It's Bo I would worry about - never coached a game before with his brother taking a cush job "running" the D. Wouldn't be surprised to see 4-8 this year.

Should be interesting...

Posted by baBUFF on July 16, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ask Mack "the recruiter" Brown too if Hawk belongs.

Posted by choderlos1741 on July 16, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This just in: Daily Camera looking for spelling "upgrad."

Posted by Buffs44 on July 16, 2008 at 11:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bo has one win but that was not his team
CU gets 12wins
Hawk has 99 more wins then bo

Posted by archalon on July 17, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ditto what baBUFF said. Hawkins more then belongs.

And dont start with scheduling tall - NU, KSU and most of the rest of the conference make a mockery of scheduling. CU will play the best opponents it can, not play at home until November or schedule patsies.

Beating Tech, OU, NU and being competive to the end against KU more than proves Hawk belongs.

if he gets 9 wins this year, count on coach of the year honors.

Posted by rswright on July 17, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bzain says:"Also, are you saying that CU students are the only students who pay for tickets?"

No. What I said was "And the fans we do have let the student's pay for football's deficits". This refers to the fact that in 05 when football had an 8 million dollar deficit our fans turned in their season tickets by the thousands leaving it up to the University (with student tuition) to pay for the football it provides for our loyal fans. Yes, the very ones who yell Go Buffs! let the kids pay for their fun.

Our posters don't face reality. Football has to be paid for by fans. Hawk is our only hope. If Hawk produces but the fans don't buy tickets, (and there has been no incease in ticket sales this year)there won't be any football at CU. Why such heresy? According to Mike
87% of all Athletic Departments nationwide go into the red each year. CU has insufficient funding from Colorado. CU has to depend on out of state students for its income. If California, Illinois and New York stop sending their kids hear,(recession anyone?) how will CU pay for football if the fans don't? It can't. Mike, who has been trying to raise money from alums lately, can raise money from alums for only so long. The bottom line is Hawk must produce so Mike can sell more season tickets. So if you don't live here send in a donation equal to a season ticket.

But you posters who let the students pay for football should stop whining about funding for students who want to compete in tennis, golf etc.
Until you pay for football you don't have the right.

Posted by cufansarefairweather on July 17, 2008 at 7:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Buff4life,

At least get Osbornes name spelled correctly you idiot. It's Osborne without the U!

Posted by bzainthemd on July 17, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And Rs,
Until you pony up your money and donate to the tennis facilities that you have never compared to other school's facilities, you have no right to continue to whine.

And Rs, sorry I took your one quote the wrong way. I can own up to that. But you take what all of us who post here, Kyle Ringo, and now Mike Bohn the wrong way all the time and you never acknowledge that. So again, you have no right to whine.

Posted by bufffan8 on July 18, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RS - if tuition/student fees are too high then kids can choose to go to another school - right? I've been reading your same old posts for what seems like an eternity and I am now not sure what your point is. Tennis was eliminated as a sport - that is a bummer. Baseball and wrestling (a top 10 program by the way) were eliminated many years ago as well. It happens. I actually saw a college ultimate frisbee tournament on TV recently. If CU can field an ultimate frisbee club team then I'm certain if students wanted a Tennis club team they could do it. CSU has one that travels to many tournaments each year. Anyway - can you remind me what your whole point of posting on this site is?

Posted by extrapoint on July 18, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

his whole point is anti football. Just like Tall, when he tries to sleep all he sees is football, football, football..........

Posted by rswright on July 18, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You obviously don't read the posts on this site. Tall provides OU's tennis center, NU's tennis center and CU's. All you have to do is pull them up to compare. If you think CU's is ok,try to find the John, there ain't one. At the same time Hawk is getting new offices and now new meeting rooms. Spend money on things that help the team's performance not on the extras when other sports don't have the basics.

"Baseball and wrestling (a top 10 program by the way) were eliminated many years ago as well. It happens." No, it doesn't just happen. These missing eight sports and the 14 others CU presently has are important programs for students and alums. The eight were eliminated for a reason, to pay for football's deficits because the fans and alums didn't. Why should the students pay football's deficits when CU provides football for fans and alums? Not one poster has ever one has ever addressed this question let alone provide a reason. It's much easier to yell Go Buffs and forget that the students are paying for your fun.

Posted by baBUFF on July 18, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wrong rs, if baseball and wrestling were so important to students and alums they would still be here. A university cannot offer every single possible program because there are a couple students who would take part. Can every University support a robotics program or a viticulture department? No, they have to choose the most important programs that their students/alums want. Same goes for sports.

The truth, whether you like it or not, is that football is far and away the biggest draw and brings in the most dollars - not just to the school, but to local restaurants, hotels, bars, and shops. The vast majority of fans/alums/students would prefer to build (spend) on football rather than keep less popular sports afloat given the choice. Fact of life.

It's too bad we can't have it both ways, but then again no one is complaining that CU should fund a taxedermy department instead of spending a bunch of money on a new law school building.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 18, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And Rs,
You are right. I don't read everyone's posts on here. I ignore tall and all that he says, so if he posted some link to pictures of OU and NU's tennis facilities, so be it. I don't pay attention to him.

However, YOU have never personally seen these things and a sample size of 3 is no sample size at all. You have never addressed this question, so again, you have no right to whine.

And again Rs, if the following quote doesn't explain why we might need to splurge on football as a Athletic Department, I don't know how to help you man:

"That excess revenue beyond our projections was huge for us," Bohn said. "Obviously, that's tied to football ticket sales and that's why it's so important to have that support there that generates the support for all the programs."

If that does not say that making our football program better not only improves our football team, but all athletics at CU, than please tell me what that quote means. And please, without good facilities and good coaches we would not have the recruits coming here and we would not have the support for our team that generates this kind of revenue. Winning brings fans. Winning brings money. Spending on football brings wins. Wins bring revenue. That's the game. Spending on tennis does nothing. Sorry man. Maybe you should become a fan of NU or OU if you love their tennis facilities so much.

Posted by extrapoint on July 18, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

boiled down
rs has a bad case of dyslexia

Posted by bufffan8 on July 18, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, if the tuition/fees are too high you can go to another school. That's the choice every student/parent has. "Dad, I want to go to CU" says Junior. "Son, sorry but the fees which support footbal are too high so you need to go to Univ of Northern CO." I assume that since we have a record breaking freshmen class coming in the fees that students/parents pay to support football as you put it aren't too high at all.

Posted by bufffan8 on July 18, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, there are a ton of students at the games. the team is for the students as well. And the alums already paid 4, sometimes 5 years of tuition. Therefore they have already "given" to the University. I don't give a dime to USC but I can still cheer for them when they are on TV. Or should I feel guilty cheering for them because I don't donate to their program?

Posted by rswright on July 19, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Buffan:
"There are a ton of students at the games."
The students come after half time when they have had time to party all day.(Remember only you fans can get a beer at a CU game). Always have and always will. If you had to sit in the end zone next to the band, you wouldn't come till after half time either.
Second, there are 30,000 students and if they care at all about football, they care until their first 8 0'Clock Monday morning. CU provides football for fans and alums not for students.Look at how much of the stadium is set aside for students and how much for fans. Bufffan is one of those fans who leave it up to the students to pay for his fun.
Sorry you ain't no bufffan.

The fees as CU are high because Colorado doesn't fund its flagship University. And kids come here because it is a great place to go to school,and get an education, not because they wish to pay the football deficits that our loyal fans don't want to pay.

"And the alums already paid 4, sometimes 5 years of tuition. Therefore they have already "given" to the University."
Wrong. No true alum ever says he won't give because he has paid tuition.Just shows that Bufffan is not an alum.

Unfortunately for CU reading the posts shows most of our fans didn't go to CU and they couldn't care less about CU except that they like football. Check out how few of our posters post on anything other than football, no posts on other sports, no posts on any other aspect of CU. Don't bother you won't find any.

"if baseball and wrestling were so important to students and alums they would still be here."
Wrong again. Learn a little CU history. They aren't here because we had a football deficit that eliminated 8 sports, not because they weren't important, but because football makes money. That doesn't mean baseball etc.isn't important it means they were eliminated because they don't make money.

Brain: When you don't pay for your own fun, you have no basis to criticize golf, tennis,baseball etc.
The fact that you don't read our posts says a lot about you. You say that there has been no comparison shown between our facilities and other facilities when all you have to do is open the sites to see the comparison. Wake up.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 20, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rs,
Learn to read...my name isn't Brain. I do pay for my own fun, moron. And I don't need to look at pictures of two other school's tennis facilities. Learn a little about statistics...A sample size of 3 does not make a sample size at all.

Futhermore, you wake up man. Who said I don't read other people's posts? I said I don't read tall's posts. That's it. I don't waste my time reading posts from posters who write stuff just to piss people off.

On another note, Rs, you need to WAKE UP! There is a reason that you don't see people post things about other aspects of CU on this site. It is because this is a SPORTS site, idiot. You need to find another site if you want to talk CU academics, professors, classes, campus, etc...

I am a CU alum. '98. I do give back to my university. And when I was a student, I did care about football more than just until 8 am Monday, as you try to imply. I'm sure I wasn't and am not alone. Your attempt to characterize every poster on this site and every CU student is shameful. You are so out of touch with reality is amazing. You still haven't explained how Bohn's quote above says anything but how CU football ticket sales help fund all athletics. Again, you are out of touch. It's obvious Rs, you ain't no Buff fan.

Posted by rswright on July 21, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"It is because this is a SPORTS site, idiot". That is why these posts emphasize football deficits. They caused CU students to lose 8 sports including baseball, wrestling, hockey.

"I do pay for my own fun,moron".
Easy to say. Fans and alums didn't pay the football deficit of 8 million and left it up to the students to pay for their fun, 8 million dollars worth.

"Learn a little about statistics" The stats show no increase in season ticket sales in 2008. source: Kyle Ringo. The surplus came from increase in TV money not ticket sales. Source: Mike Bohn.

"Who said I don't read other people's posts? I said I don't read tall's posts". (isn't Tall other people?). Too bad you didn't read his post. He listed OU and NU sites which show the sports facilities our competition has. You could learn something. Football gets the extras (Hawk's new potty) while the other sports don't get the basics. Like a place to play home matches. It doesn't take a brain (or a survey) to know a facility without plumbing, shelter, even paved roads is unique which is why brain fits.

Posted by bufffan8 on July 21, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RS - Baseball and wrestling were eliminated as a result of title IX. Again, if you can't afford the tuition/fees or don't like where the fees go then send your kids to another school. Simple as that.

Posted by baBUFF on July 21, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RS, if baseball and wrestling were so important to the CU community (alums, students, fans) and Football was running up a huge deficit, why didn't CU cut football so they could save the other sports? You know the answer - because football makes money and the other sports don't. You said it yourself in your post.

Clearly CU does not generate the kind of donation money that other schools do, but what money does come in is generally directed at football. Why? Because people who do spend money would rather spend it on football than tennis, baseball, golf, etc. If you, or other like-minded fans wanted to pony up, baseball could have been saved. Go build a golf course and donate it to the golf team if you're concerned about their home matches because other than you, most fans would rather see a winner on the football field, even if it means other sports have to do with less. Simple fact.

Last time I checked, CU students still had to pay for season tickets to football. I know they're pretty cheap, but if the students were so outraged about haveing to pay for football's deficits and everyone else's fun, why do they pony up the extra for season tickets too? How many letters do you think Mike Bohn has gotten from students upset at having to pay for football and demanding equal distribution of revenue to tennins, etc? I could probably count the number on one hand, but I only have to look at the student section on game day to see thousands of students who don't seem to mind.

Posted by bufffan8 on July 21, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way - I know plenty of Alums that do not give back to their universities. You should check with CU and see what percent of Alums make donations. If you think it is 100% you are crazy.

I am a Buff fan. I prefer football to the other sports which is why I comment about football articles. You won't see me at a women's soccer game because I am not a soccer fan. I hope they win every game but that doesn't mean I will attend the games. Essentially what you are saying is all CU fans need to support not only football but all other sports and donate to the university. Yea right. By the way - they don't sell beer at Folsom. Clearly you don't attend football games. Being a true Buff fan one would think you would attend games. Hmmm

Posted by baBUFF on July 21, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Until CU finds its own T. Boone Pickens or Phil Knight to throw cash at the AD, or until CU can pack its football and basketball stadiums for every game, non-revenue sports are going to get the bare minimum from the AD.

It sounds cold, but I (and I suspect most Buff fans) would rather get our football assistants a pay raise and see football become a winner than buy bathrooms and grand stands for tennis. Someday, I'd love the AD to be running huge surpluses so we can do it all, but we're not there.

Posted by bufffan8 on July 21, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey RSwrong. Would it surprise you to hear that the percent of CU alumni that donate to the Univ is less than 50%. So less than half of CU alums are true alums according to you. I leave it up to the students to pay for my fun you say, well then i must have paid for a lot of people's fun when i was a student so i guess we are even.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 21, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rs,
No, other "peoples" would be pleural. I don't read Tall's posts, singular. Learn english. I do my homework. I have been to other schools. I'm fine with MY university. I'm happy with our athletics. Bottom line, our AD will get us back on the right tract.

You have now resolved to mere rambling, making up facts, and taking things out of context.

There's no point arguing with a moron like you anymore. I suggest we all just ignore idiots like Tall and Rs. Maybe they'll go away.

By the way, I read earlier that someone know's who Tall is. Who is he?

Posted by rswright on July 21, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brain says:
"No, other "peoples" would be pleural. I don't read Tall's posts, singular. Learn english. I do my homework. I have been to other schools. "

At which school did he learn to spell plural as pleural? Then he tells someone else to learn English. He claims above to be a CU grad. CU must wince every time he does.

Posted by baBUFF on July 21, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Correcting grammar on these sites is what people do when they've run out of thoughts or constructive arguments. People type fast and words get mis-spelled, no one is winning a Pulitzer here.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 21, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rs,
Sorry, a misspelling is different than completely taking quotes and concepts out of context and twisting them to try to make a point. My bad. By the way, I am a radiologist and the word "pleural" refers to the lining of your lungs. It is a word I use all the time in everyday practice, so sorry if I dictate radiological studies all day and misspelled "plural" on this site.

Once again, I am a CU grad and a licenced doctor in multiple states. So, if you want to start comparing education with me, bring it. I'm sure CU is not ashamed of me or any other proud grad on this site. And again, don't come at me about misspelling. I'm still not sure who Brain is.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 21, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh sorry Rs, I see that I also misspelled licensed trying to write fast. I know CU must be very ashamed of me now. Schmuck.

Posted by extrapoint on July 21, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you may have something in common. I have a feeling good ol rs might be a doctor as well

Posted by rswright on July 21, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Babuff:
It's not just the missed spelling, it's telling the world that he went to many schools and others to learn English, when he doesn't spell correctly himself. He then embarrasses himself even further by telling us he is a doctor. Typical.
Arrogant in dealing with others when in need of some humility himself. He calls others idiots and morons, when he can't spell. Maybe he should try
a little remedial English along with a strong dose of humility instead. CU must be proud.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 22, 2008 at 6:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rs,
I really don't have to prove myself to you. It's not worth my time. I know my capabilities. You don't know me and I won't rehash why I think you fail to understand reality. This article speaks for itself. The mere fact is that it seems that nobody agrees with you, no matter how much you spat off incorrect facts or take things out of context. You can nitpick what people say to defend yourself all you want, but you're not convicing anybody that you're right. You can call out our football program and AD for putting us in the red and that students have to pay for football all you want, but nobody agrees with you.

What is obvious to me is that you don't understand how real universities work and never will. I should have listened to my own advice a few days ago and ingored you. So should everyone else. Maybe you'll go away when you don't have a forum anymore.

And extrapoint, no way Rs is a doctor. Trust me.

Posted by extrapoint on July 22, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

with his "me against the world" attitude he would be one doctor who would kill his own business (pun intended)

Posted by baBUFF on July 22, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rs, what's more likely, that bzain is actually an idiot who can't spell plural because he's a CU grad, or he typed too quickly and you're running out of real arguments?

I know the answer already, save your breath.

Posted by rswright on July 22, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is amazing how our posters don't like to read their own words. Plueral, idiot, moron. If you don't like reading what you say, don't say it. No one asked you to prove yourself. You told us you were a doctor, had gone to many schools and most laughable, to learn English.


Sticking with sports,doc says "You can call out our football program and AD for putting us in the red and that students have to pay for football all you want, but nobody agrees with you."

First, if it's true then it doesn't matter if anyone agrees with you or not. But if it's not true, then it's a simple matter, prove it's not true. Come on, doctor, it's time to put up or shut up. (and don't try to weasel out).

Secondly, no one said anything against the program. Nor that the AD put us in the red. The program is fine (excepting too many arrests) and Mike is doing a great job (overall). Sloppy posting doesn't get you anywhere, as you should have learned by now. (as have ep and ba on other occasions. Still telling us how football players are picked on by those rich kids, Ep?)

Posted by bzainthemd on July 23, 2008 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Someone needs to read his own words...

"At which school did he learn to spell plural as pleural? Then he tells someone else to learn English. He claims above to be a CU grad. CU must wince every time he does."

Then he says, "No one asked you to prove yourself. You told us you were a doctor, had gone to many schools..."

Sorry, Rs, you did. You need to read your own words. It seems like you don't even know what you're saying. That's why it is pointless arguing with you. Period.

Posted by rswright on July 23, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Come on brain, either put up or shut up.

You said: "You can call out our football program and AD for putting us in the red and that students have to pay for football all you want, but nobody agrees with you."

Don't weasel. Tell us how you are right. Either put up or shut up. Try not to weasel.
(Prediction: he will shut up).

P.S. Doc, the reason you don't hear from other posters is that fools rush in and all that.

Posted by bzainthemd on July 23, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rs,
I think you are the weasel. You need to put up or shut up. Look at everyone here. They're not disagreeing with me. They disagree with you.

You claim all sorts of nonsense and never back it up with real numbers. You make all sorts of claims and then attempt to use backwards logic to back it up. The day you go see other universities and their tennis facilities, IN PERSON, and try to compare our tennis facilities to theirs, maybe I'll listen. The day you explain to me how Bohn is incorrect in saying that our football tickets sales directly impact all sports at CU is false, and how spending on our football team doesn't benefit all sports at CU, maybe you'll have some credibility. You've argued against these ideas for a long time now, and have convinced NOBODY so far.

As I said, I have nothing to prove to you and it's not worth my time. I have way more important things to do. Just look at how many people have listened to you go on and on. Now, ask youself. Why is nobody agreeing with you? Are we all ignorant, blind to how university athletic budgeting works, and uninformed...or is it just you?

I'm done with this thread. And no, you didn't prove me wrong...you're just a waste of my time.

Posted by rswright on July 23, 2008 at 7:07 p.m.

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Posted by rswright on July 24, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Doc Weasel: Read and Learn.

"Twenty five years after CU cut seven varsity sports to reduce spending deficits remain a problem." Source: Coloradan March 2006.

The spending deficit was caused by the Fairbanks contract and his woeful results. Now, you who have gone to many schools, who do you think paid these deficits?

Learn. Try reading a little. You can start with reading all the posts,not just the ones you like.
Rookie.

Posted by oz_in_cali on July 27, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Doc Zain,
You have a better chance of engaging in a productive discourse with tallisal or a banana slug, than you would with RSWright (or Soapbox Boy, as I prefer to call him).

In a recent post, extrapoint suggested that we use RS in our oil drilling efforts (as he is spinning so hard). I would like to go one further and say that, if RSWright does drill himself into the ground, I will be happy to help in filling in the hole.

My advice to you, Doc (as well as to anyone else who is new to this board), is to acknowledge Talli and RSWright (by the way, I am starting to suspect that, like Talli, RSWright has been posting under an alias - RWE) strictly for kicks or comic relief. Don't even bother trying to have anything resembling a sensible exchange, as they will fill the blog with their insanity (in defense of talli, at least he is just a bugeater trying to stir the pot, while soapbox boy is a crazed, angry, axe-grinder who is actually convinced of his own insane arguments - sorry talli, no disrespect intended (to you or to banana slugs) in grouping you with Soapbox Boy).

GO BUFFS!!!