Posted by vegasbufffan on October 12, 2008 at 11:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great bunch of kids, showing more maturity and stability then some of the know it all "fans".

Posted by JAWS on October 13, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Agreed - I'm a die-hard fan, always have and always will be... But, I am not oppposed to seing a bit more of another QB when your'starter' makes bonehead plays and makes them a lot. There is a difference between not succeeding because of youth, inexperience, and injuries versus just playing straight up awful. Cody - look over the middle, scramble around if you have to, and use your tight-ends, play action, beat the blitzes w/ screens, and when you NEED to get the ball down the field - FRICKIN' throw IT!!! All of 'us fans' would be elated to see you overthrow a receiver on a long route than hang one up there... Come on man - let's go. Step it up all around Buffs!!!

Posted by BlackAndGold on October 13, 2008 at 1:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good...the pressure is on. it should be! The fans...the boosters...the students...the media, our job is to apply pressure so that the players and coaches realize they have to get beyond the excuses and the whining.

Listen to Kyley and Cody:
Well...we have low expectations for ourselves..."We're young." "They are a better team than we are." (Yeah, Cody...that was you...open up a can of man and put the loss on your shoulders.) And Kyle, quit defending the losses. How about "We played like crap and we take full responsibility for it."

Enough with the excuses. Tell us how you are going to improve. Tell us what you are going to do better...different....just quit with the excuses...

Hawk Love, Dan...is over. its dead. it is time for some tough love.

Posted by nolanjp on October 13, 2008 at 4:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

we will have to score 28 points to win this game, or more.........so good luck

Posted by buffalobilly on October 13, 2008 at 5:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Having read this forum for at least 5 yrs, I've been amused at times and dismayed at times. I go back to the day I was selling hot dogs in the stands and watching John Hadl. Was a Buff fan then and am still, even more so now. Lets remember one thing, regardless of the last game, the next one is the most important. I think the running game everyone has expected to appear, will begin to show itself this weekend. If D.S. is half speed so be it. He has many games left to star in this conerence and will. To hear people already talking about him jumping ship is ridiculous. This youing man has made a committment and has both feet securely grounded in Buffalo pie! Fans, don't get too down on the boys, they have heart as we have seen. Also many injuries. So hang in and watch this team mature to greaness!

Posted by Odog on October 13, 2008 at 5:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Unless Cody starts to see or use the middle of the field, even KjSU will stop us.

Cody is a great kid who doesn't have a lot of help right now. But its either Helfrich or him that is only using 2/3s of the field. They will continue to funnel their safties until we can hit the seam.

Where is Geer?

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 6:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

..Coach Dan Hawkins has no plans to change quarterbacks or take his starter out of the lineup at times to give backup Matt Ballenger chances earlier in games. Dan Hawkins is a firm believer that rotating quarterbacks is a bad idea. He believes in sticking with the starter until it is clear the backup has become the better player...

He needs to stick his nose in the air and smell the "need for change"

How the heck does he know? Practice, we talking about practice. Practice?

Hawk you have not given B a chance to compete. You are making things up.

Go Buffs

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 6:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"If you would have told somebody that you were going to lose to Florida State, Texas and the Orange Bowl champions from a year ago, how many people would be unbelievably shocked by that?" quarterback Cody Hawkins said.

Its not the lack of wins Cody. Its the poor play that is shocking. And it starts with the QB.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 6:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

funny how some of the fans are so off-base in terms of what is actually happening on the field

Mad because Cody started and played in all three games he won. Mad that he was left in vs FSU because he was undefeated at that point. Mad because Ballenger got garbage time vs. Texas. mad because Ballenger got more time vs. KU

The only need for change I smell is the brainpower of the flunkies. This is the Big-12 and we opened against two of the best teams in the country. Isn't a smidgen of perspective in order?

Posted by Ralphie2 on October 13, 2008 at 6:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Keep working at it, boys! You'll be fine!

GO BUFFS!!!

Posted by oldbuffer on October 13, 2008 at 6:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

All of you that were/are yelling for a QB change had that change in the 4th quarter. Like what you saw? He looked even more confused than Cody and was certainly no more effective. Let's face it. With no offensive line, ergo no running game and no pass protection, even John Elway couldn't move this team. (We saw that in his early years with the Broncos.)

Good thing I don't bet for a living! I'd have lost 3 out of 4 last Sat.

Sure hope we're not seeing another Marcus Huston with DS. Glad to see Uncle Josh playing better this week - there's hope there yet.

What's left of the offensive line works together to get better, no more injuries, and we still win three more games this season. Go Buffs.

Posted by reallifeshocker on October 13, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

perspective is that we're just not very good right now. the season is not over, we can begin to get it done, and it must start this week.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Seems like a lot of problems.

We got a new strength coach because Coach Hawkins wanted players who could clean 300 pounds.

Well they can do it, but can't play this year because their knees are all twisted up.

No QB change will happen until 2011 unless there is an injury, so get used to short screen passes and a totally predictable play book.

CU stole away most of BSU's coaches to turn the Buff's into the Broncos. Unfortunately, this isn't the WAC.

Big 12 coaches are better, just ask Dan Hawkins.

Posted by ksbuff on October 13, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is the biggest week for the CU football program this year. KSU is a bad defensive team but very capable offensively. This is a MUST win, KSU has killed the buffs the last 2 years, and Freeman has looked like an NFL QB against the buffs. KSU won't run the ball, but watch how many times they run play action. DONT BITE ON THE PLAY FAKE!!!! KSU wont run the ball, and if they do, they won't do it effectively. Put Pressure on Freeman, and RUN RUN RUN because KSU's run defense, and their pass defense is just very BAD. This is a MUST win, and a game where if healthy DS breaks out and puts up some numbers. Also Stewart reminds me a ton of another #43 that played at KSU, so lets see Sproles Jr. take it to the cats.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BF

Thanks for clearing all that up and telling us how we should think, what we should say and who we should say it to.

Did you actually watch the game?

Posted by 1GoBuffs1 on October 13, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The offensive line will improve.

I didn't know the cupboard was this bare.

In two years this team will be solid, they are just frustrating to watch now.

Hopefully Jordan Wynn or Clark Evans can be good right away. [Hansen, Ballenger]

Cody is NOT the answer.

Hang in there Buff fans, keep supporting your school and team. It is just a matter of time.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Did anyone notice NU took TT into overtime?

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah I did, and I'm still not telling you what to think, you paranoid freak. you should try to just think for yourself for a change

and quit being a rude SOB

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's becoming increasingly clear, by Hawk's refusal to consider changing QB's, that there never was a fair competition for the QB position.

The skids were greased for Cody and no other QB will ever get a fair shot as long as he is around.

Posted by mewag28 on October 13, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do they keep repeated the crap that Ballenger struggled as much as Cody. He played a small fraction of the time and was 5 for 8 with almost as many yards. He had a good scramble and a good run. Give him a real chance when he can make a difference (early in the game) and I think he will open up the offence much more than Codycan due to his weak arm.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 7:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ballenger hit 63% of his passes Saturday.

Hawkins was 36% passing with 2 interceptions.

Ballenger had 57 yards in 8 attempts.

Hawkins had 90 yards in 22 attempts.

I agree, Ballenger was almost as productive as Hawkins even though he barely played.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ob

I would like to see B start and if the buffs are up by 20 or down by 20 bring in Cody for mop up in the 4th quarter.

Whats the diff?

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bf
You missed a bad game.

Posted by GoBuffs07 on October 13, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CODY BENCH YOURSELF... You are pathetic!!

Posted by buffalobilly on October 13, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Who.......That could be right, however it could also be that Ballenger is way behiind Cody. I never saw anything on the field that would indicate anything else.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KSU averaging 43 points a game vs. CU's 22 point average.

CU is last in the big 12 in poinst scored, passing yards, longest completion and rushing yards.

CU is, however, ranked 1rst in interceptions, sacked QB's and yards lost.

One can point at the O-line all day, but someone probably should look at the poor coaching job being done for the 3rd season.

When battles are constantly lost, the Army usually brings in another General to get it do

Posted by montanabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Like Bill Callahan to replace Frank Solich .... ?

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Billy - No one is "way behind" Cody! There were probably 50 guys at the game that they could have pulled out of the stands who would not have sprinted into the opponent's endzone or thrown into double-coverage the way Cody did.

And we ceratinly know we have other QB's besides Cody and Ballenger: but since most of them have been moved to TE or DB and don't "know the playbook" as well as Cody they probably won't get a shot.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pelini to replace Callahan..

Haven't you noticed, Callahan and that lousy AD were both booted?

Posted by montanabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, nepa, and Pelini's defense is ranked 99th in pass defense, 100th in pass efficiency defense, 85th in scoring defense, and 84th in total defense. Off with their heads!

I will be the first to agree that this weekend for CU, against the first poor defensive squad the Buffs have faced, is a "put up or shut up" weekend.

Let's see how this Saturday goes - then we'll talk.

Go Buffs!

http://www.cuatthegame.com

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

.......young buffaloes growing up......stay strong........IN HAWK WE TRUST.....go buffs......shoulder2shoulder......hey nepaclown--just as long as the so-called general doesnt like to beat up other coaches and doesnt instruct players to play dirty and spit on other players. at least that wasnt a freshman qb that threw that awful pass in OT v texas tech, oh wait, what year is joe ganz?? i heard there was several arrests on nu's campus from fans and students celebrating their team not getting "blown out" and finally playing a close game v good team...no worries kenny we can count that game as nebraska finally 'winning' a meaningful game if it makes you feel better....

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This "Cody knows the playbook" agrument is a Red Herring.

Cody's knowledge of the playbook is inconsequential if he doesn't have the physical abilities to execute the plays in that playbook.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A quote from KSU AD Bob Krause:

"“From a plan standpoint, we’re pretty much on target with some adjustments here and there,” Krause said of an outline Prince presented during his hiring, and has since adjusted.

“There has probably been more staff turnover than you’d like to have, but that’s part of the deal, too. … The disappointment is you’re not seeing (the plan thrive) on Saturdays. I don’t want to minimize it, because that ultimately is the acid test. It really is. The coach understands that.”

At CU, Where 3rd Head Coach Dan Hawkins has done much worse than Ron Prince, (16-15 vs 11-18) Bohn the AD gives Hawkins a raise and contract extension.

So this week you have a KSU coach who's job in on the line vs a CU coach with no worries.

Posted by BlackAndGold on October 13, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For all the panzies on this board that on this board that don't like the pressure that's being applied...here is what you are missing.

I don't think everyone is expecting them to go 11-0. Sure, that would be great. But, we are realistic. So, what are we expecting when we loose:

1) We are expecting close games (look at the Huskers game against TT..went into OT)
2) We are expecting to be able to turn off the game and say...."well they lost, but damn did you see how hard they played...that was awesome when Cody got in that receivers face after he dropped the ball...and did you see that RB (or receiver) fighting for those extra yards..."
3) How about those TE's getting into it at the line to create holes for Speedy...damn that kid is fun to watch.
4) And did you see those lineman...they were still going at with the DL after the play was dead...these kids are going to be good...that was some serious passion.

What we don't want to see is a complete manhandling by ranked teams where the level of talent, passion, and ability at CU appears magnitudes beneath the opposing team. Get it?

CU's offense looks like a bottom tear WAC/MW team and its been 3 years!

I realize they are rebuilding, but these coaches and athletes have had 3 years and no returning running back or receiver appears to have any real talent or made significant improvements. All those returning players are so boring to watch. And I can't believe Hawk has put up the mediocrity from these kids. And the only spark of life on the offense is Speedy, a true freshman...WHAT?!! what the hell is Hawk coaching these returning players? a freshman can show up and grab the starting spot that easily.

The top half of the WAC or MW would crush CU. And that's pathetic.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey nepa, did you listen to eminem's song "stan" while watching the buffs on saturday? did you hug your cody doll, crying into his jersey screaming--"NO CODY!! NO!" when he threw that 'pick' on the sideline? how many letters have you wrote to him this year? i sure hope we dont find cody in the trunk of your car....i bet you have your head shaved like cody.....doesnt that restraining order the hawkings family have on you include the buff chat rooms also you sick lil cody stalker...yuck dude....i feel an A&E special coming---"THE STALKING OF CODY HAWKINS"--the story of a lonely pathetic husker fan and his disturbing obsession of a colorado quarterback.....

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's because the coach has unconditional job security at CU.

Contract extensions for 11-18 records and glowing comparisons to Bill McCartney's losing streak 50 years ago.

Posted by rodrigo on October 13, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys kill me. Get a frickin' life.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buff4life, you're really twisting in the wind today.

I enjoyed the human interest stories a little myself, unfortunately they haven't been able to write a happy ending to it (NC, Big 12 C, Big 12 north C or even a winning record).

Shouting down the critics is a lame way to respond. I thought you more responsible than that.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey black and gold, feel free to trade in your black and gold for any of the WAC or MWC teams....look around college football and how many teams are "significantly' better with a new coach after 3 years??? ask nepa about coach callahan and if you feel that barnett left hawk with talent let me remind you of 70-3....how can some buff fans be so stupid....at leaast during these times the "fair weathered", "i've never really liked program anyway" chump fans get exposed....keep on talking cuz when we start winning i dont want some of "bandwagon" babies looking for your spot back on the 'wagon'....man. you 'fair weathered' fans make me sick....some of us are behind you coach, ignore the dumb ones that didnt want you here in the first place and wish we would have hired dave logan......GO BUFFS!!!!

Posted by buffalobilly on October 13, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nepabuff has no idea. All those stats were amassed against some pretty good teams.....and, we have more to come. We didn't quite schedule the patsies Nebrasks did. It will all come down to that match buddy. Isnt that what matters? It appears that is all you can talk about. I promise this, M. Lucky won't look as good vs. us as he did vs Tex. Tech.

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nepa - Tell us how many letters have you "wrote" to Cody? Buff4life wants to know!

And if you do have Cody in the trunk of your car Ron Prince is requesting that you release him sometime before Saturday. Having Cody on the field is their best chance for a win.

Posted by BuffSteve on October 13, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, one positive has come through. With all of the posts on the message boards the last couple days it's clear that we have alot of passion for CU football! This is a good thing. We don't necessarily agree on what should be done to correct things but it's clear many people care.
My opinion; for what it's worth; we need to trust the coaching staff to make the best choices for who plays; what plays are called; etc. They see these guys in practice every day; are with them all week so I think they are the most qualified to make the choices on who plays, etc. I'm very frustrated at the team's play but for now I trust the coaches to make the right decisions. The coaches don't want to lose any more than we do. Darian Hagan, for example, bleeds black and gold. Do you think he isn't doing all he can with the RB's to get them to play better?

Posted by buffalobilly on October 13, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey nepa,
I notice solich, callahan didnt get extensions. What does that say? Just parade the old thug lover Tom O. Btw, was he at the sentencing of Lawrence? I didnt' think so.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buff4

You appear to not have a life. Can I be your friend if I just say what you want me to say? Please. It will be hard for me, but perhaps I can borrow your rose colored glasses and mouthpiece.

All we want is to give B a chance. Is that too much of a problem for you?

Oh sorry, the party line is what is important right?

Jeepers I bet the Hawk is reading these posts right this very minute.

And do not forget O stands for Obama eh?

Posted by BlackAndGold on October 13, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BuffSteve....besides Speedy, the rest of the RB's our lousy. Summler is so boring to watch run. Scott showed up to camp out of shape. The only healthy talent on the RB roster is Speedy....and he's a freshman!

So is Hagan doing everything he can? Frankly, I don't think so. Do I love the guy, you bet. That doesn't mean he's exempt from expectations and pressure.

B4L...trade in your man card for a tampon. i can't believe you are ok with this offense. besides Speedy...do you see any improvement year over year? i don't. the receivers still suck. the legacy RB's still suck. and can they prove me wrong?...i hope for nothing more. get it?

Posted by lobobuff on October 13, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with Rodrigo. Bunch of magpies on the telephone line.

Posted by Buff_bronc_fan on October 13, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The homers are almost worse than the trolls in terms of how they spin an argument on this site... I am just as sick of the people making excuses for this team and getting mad at those of us with criticisms as I am of the people who only come here to trash the team week in and week out.

The bottom line here is that we are looking at a bad football team who has severely underperformed over the past 3 weeks. The offense hasn't been competitive, and the team has regressed from 1 year ago at this time. Players don't look like they're in midseason form. They seem confused from one week to the next...

Black and Gold is 100% right-- We need to stop accepting excuses and justification for subpar play and coaching. I am 100% sure Dan Hawkins is the right guy for this program, and I know we will see stronger seasons in years to come-- but for right now, we need to see an improved product on the field.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This week features two terrible defenses.

One team has a good offense with an excellent QB.

Shootout? CU's run game may show up against a lousy defense.

Posted by Black_Rob on October 13, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This place sucks.

Posted by roamingbuff on October 13, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Inept. That's how CU was when the Buffs were getting blown out to the tune of 70 to 3 vs Texas under Barnett - and getting hammered by OU back then too.

Inept - not just getting beat - but totally inept is where we are today. Things were really bad when Hawk first took. That was not his fault. Last year, at least the team played with fire and you got the sense they were a player or two from finally getting back into games. But - this year - back to inept.

When we got the ball on their 30 Saturday my first reaction was - hey - good field position. Then I realized - we might not make it to their 20 - much less the endzone.

The play calling is brutal. The talent level is worse - not better than last year - worse.

There are so many issues there isn't enough space here to even go into it.

What the heck is up with Scott? Looks like a total waste of one year of playing time. Now, specualtion he won't be here next year.

Cody is way off his game. And remember, last year he played better yet had a very young offensive line then too.

Rodney Stewart is the one shinning star. And I'm sorry, Ballenger looked better in his brief playing time Saturday than Cody. He has poise. He throws a strong ball. And I liked how he stepped up into the pocket and threw strikes - rather than running backwards 15 yards for a sack or safety.

Cody either cannot or does not step up. He retreats. And your starting QB has got to be aware of where he is on the field.

If the Buffs lost games but at least looked competent, I'd be ok way that. I can understand growing pains. But they loose and look inpet, and that is very disturbing.

While I'm venting - the way KU played early Saturday looked like they challenged CU to win the game. But the Buffs could not sieze the opportunities.

Something is seriously wrong right now.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

....its funny how a few losses has everyone "abandoning ship", not surprising though, you sound like the same pathetic bunch that ran and hid when coach barnett was getting "crucified".....but i was there when we had "support the coach" day ....your the same clowns that prob love coach shanahan and jay cutler one week and want them both gone the next week....whatever, you make me laugh and if jumping on me makes you feel better then feel free, i know true buff fans and you slobs arent close...hawk and buff4life are here to stay so get used used to it 'fickle' losers.....you people make me sick and i will continue to EXPOSE you chumps....nice tampon 'take' dummy, can you show me how to use one girl.....sad day when nepa sounds better than stupid ignorant "so-called" buff fans...im gonna have fun laughing in your faces when hawk gets this thing right....you losers......i will take my buff "toys" and go play somewhere else cuz your right---"THIS PLACE DOES SUCK"...

Posted by BuffTime on October 13, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nepa, stop talking about the Huskers defense. We don't care.

I am sure glad that the team doesn't read these posts. They would be sick to represent so many whiny "fans". Some complainers on here I honestly think are Buff fans but still nothing Whos or nepa has ever said even remotely hints of a fan. Those of you who actually bleed Black and Gold and are upset with the state of things are not doing yourselves any good by letting these 2 trolls (if they really are 2 people) link up with you.

Don't like the play of Cody? Fine. Want to complain of how he performs and base your arguments on that as to why someone else should play? Fine, go ahead. But these guys just want to piss people off.

nepa has been spouting negative stuff about the team in EVERY post! Not recently when we lost 3 in a row. Every post. Oh, wait he will put in a "go buffs" about once a month. Make your arguments and be a passionate Buff fan (we take all kinds) just don't be fooled and make yourself into the fool by accepting Whos and nepa as "honest critics". They aren't. They just want to rile everyone's feathers.

Posted by GoBuffs07 on October 13, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cody has to go. And we have to have traditional style with quarterback under center. We are only under center when we run. Everyone knows that. Cody doesn't belong here. Send him back to the wac

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

..THE FIGHT SONG IS
"SHOULDER2SHOULDER", YOU SAPS, LISTEN TO IT AND GET BEHIND THESE KIDS AND COACHES AND STOP EMBARRASSING THE PROGRAM WITH YOUR 'FICKLE' B.S., .....EVEN CSU LAM FANS ARE MORE SUPPORTIVE, SAD...I'LL BE THERE SATURDAY COACH, LETS GET AFTER IT AND PLEASE DONT LEAVE OUR PROGRAM CUZ OF IDIOTS THAT LIVE HERE, THEY CANT HELP IT, ALTITUDE MAKES SOME FOLKS JUST STUPID.............

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody reads this stuff except for us. We all want the Buffs to win, save for a few flamers. I have no problem with the criticism, I just like to slap you all around now and then. Excuse me for having a little fun with it. So tighten up, get a thick skin, and if you're a legit fan then bring some legit arguments

Cody played poorly enough to lose his job. Matt Ballenger had more time in the game than against Texas and if he doesn't start vs. KSU, he'll get more time in that game. He didn't play well enough to win the job. And since he's a freshman, its probably a good idea to break him in slowly

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bf

good points

me too

Posted by roamingbuff on October 13, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fans being upset has little to do with the win loss record. It is not so much that people are grumbeling over a 3 game skid. It has to do with the way the team is playing. There are some glaring fundamental flaws.

Had this team lost the same 3 games, but looked competent doing it - people would understand that it's a tough schedule and a young team. But when the team looks nearly incompetent - and as I said before - inept - that is something else - and that is the reason people are concerned.

When your kicker misses every field goal in a game - when your QB can't move the team - when the nation's top runningback is essentially absent - when the play selection is rediculous - when special team's execution is horrid - etc etc etc - that is when
people complain.

If CU looses to Texas - one of the best teams in the nation - we're disappointed. But not many will complain if you hang tough and play them well. But when the school almost gets ambarassed on national TV - that's when people get upset.

Loosing is one thing. Looking inpet is another - and CU is virtually inept at this point.

Posted by phibuffa on October 13, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Time to buy some Buff stock! I'm gonna put a few dimes on the Buffs and give a couple points:

"Hey, we're losing all our dam* money, and Christmas is around the corner, and I ain't gonna have no money to buy my son the G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip! And my wife ain't gonna f... my wife ain't gonna make love to me if I got no money!" So they're panicking right now, they're screaming "SELL! SELL!" to get out before the price keeps dropping. They're panicking out there right now, I can feel it.

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bufftime - I'm not going go over my "credentials" as a Buff fan again. They have been well-stated previously. My involvement with the CU athletic department is long-standing!

I care for this instituion and I don't like what I have seen from Dan and Cody Hawkins. Everything points to the fact that we have been lied to by this father/son dynamic duo. In short, there never was any competiton for the QB spot - it was Cody's from the minute Mike Bohn offered Dan Hawkins the job.

The result is that CU's reputation has been greatly diminished by this nepotism. And I don't like it.

If you don't like my opinion don't read it.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You ever notice everytime CU gets beat, Bufftime brings up NU to deflect the topic?

Then he starts in with the character assasinations to anyone that is critical about a team that is embarking towards a third consecutive losing season that has all the worst offensive stats in the big 12?

It's simple, start winning. That is the acid test for a coach.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

suck it up and quit your crying

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LOOKING GOOD PHIBUFFA!

Posted by roamingbuff on October 13, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just so everybody understands - I'm a major Buff fan. I have been since I was a little kid in the 60's. I still support the program the best I can - which at this point mostly involves giving cash.

But I am sick of this program not being competitive with the best teams. CU has not looked like a viable force in many many years. I hope that Hawk can turn it around. But right now it sure does not look like CU is building and getting beter. It looks like the Buffs have taken a few steps backwards.

As I said before, I don't like loosing, but every team will loose at some point. The issue is - do you look like a competitive team - or not. OU lost this weekend, but what a game. They looked like they deserved to be there. When CU looses - and for that matter, when they win sometimes - they look like they don't even belong on the same field.

CU doesn't even look competitive these days. Some
of it has to do with talent and re-building - but some of it goes beyond that. And that is what concerns me.

I'm not just going to go put on my rose colored glasses and be satisfied with the state of things these days - and go sing the fight song an call it good. Sorry if that means a less than positive reaction from my corner of the world - but part of moving forward is recognizing what's wrong and turning it around. And there is plenty to turn around right now.

Posted by BuffTime on October 13, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You are too consumed by your theory of nepotism to give any reasonable thought to things. That's sad. Who was the best QB on the roster in 2006? Think B Jax gave us a better chance than Cody would have?

Who was the best QB on the roster in 2007?

Who is the best QB on the roster this year?

Most reasonable Buff fans would at least grudgingly admit that the answer to all of those is Cody. Notice I didn't ask "who is the QB on our current roster who has the most upside and future within the program as starting QB?" That answer is not likely Cody. To insist that the ONLY reason he has ever been the starting QB is that he is the Coach's son is just dumb. Do you seriously think Dan Hawkins would jeopardize his career and millions of dollars so that his son can have the "thrill" of being the starting QB at the Div 1 level? Seriously? Under the glare of modern day media?

Saying things like "Cody will be the starter until 2011" is even more dumb. Hawk and his staff have shown no favorites in any other position. They bench players that aren't living up to their end of the bargain. Adkins is still suspended. Don't you think the O-line could use him right about now?

DS was the all-star recruit but Speedy is getting all the reps because he proved he is the better player right now.

Take a step back, gain some clarity and try, just try to look at the situation without the prejudiced charge of nepotism. Just once.

Posted by BuffTime on October 13, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No nepa, nobody noticed how I always bring up NU. Because I don't. I was taking a swipe at you for your comment on "This week features two terrible defenses". You really think the Buffs have a terrible defense?

If so, what is your basis for this?

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Personally I thnk the "scandal" was far more damaging than anyone wants to admit. Hawk should get credit for coaching us to a few big wins in such a short time.

Look on the bright side, with the economy in the pooper, what better year to miss a bowl game. I sure can't afford it.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thats right dang right go buffs

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

vk, you ought to pick on extrapoint a little more, he's got some good smack

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bufftime - Your "modern media" argument is the best reason Cody never should have come to CU. If Cody really was as good as Dan was claiming he should have gone to some other school where who his father is wouldn't be an issue.

If Cody were a Bradford/Freeman type of QB, the nepotism charge might be less valid, but Cody just simply doesn't have the physical attributes that will allow him to play that position.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the turf at Folsom loves the 3 game losing streak

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by BuffTime on October 13, 2008 at 11:20 a.m.

No nepa, nobody noticed how I always bring up NU. Because I don't. I was taking a swipe at you for your comment on "This week features two terrible defenses". You really think the Buffs have a terrible defense?

If so, what is your basis for this?

My basis is the Buff defense has given up 39, 38 and 30 points in the last 3 games.

In the past 3 games the Buff defense has given up 378, 431 and 407 yards.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, Coach Hawkin's decision to leapfrog Benard Jackson (who was a terrible QB) over White was one of the worst moves I've ever seen.

Wonder why he did that?

Posted by roamingbuff on October 13, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree w/ Bufftime. No way coach would jeopardize his whole career just to play his son.

Cody was a good 'get' for CU at the time. If you will remember, we had virtually NO QB when Hawk came. Think of it. A division 1 team with virtually NO QB. At one point under Barnett our starting QB wasn't even on scholarship. How can that happen?

So, along comes Hawk - cupboards bare - who the heck would be willing to be the starter for a program like that? Cody was an elite 11 QB - and he understood his dad's work ethic and plabook. He is exactly what CU needed at the time. In fact - I think he helped his dad land a few recruits that we might otherwise not have landed. And he helped in bringing a certain attitude and way of doing things to a team that had plenty of player's complaining and quitting. Cody not only was way better than anbody on the roster at the time, but was essential in keeping the ship afloat off the field.

The thing is - he has done about all he can do. He did his part, and now - or very soon from now - will be time for somebody else to take CU to the next level. It might be Ballanger.

Cody can only take the team so far - and other teams have figured him out and know how to shut him down.

I am a big Cody fan. He's a "gammer" and a fantastic young man. But he is not the future of the program.

But he also is not playing simply 'cuz daddy says.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

and come on, if Hawk plans to start Ballenger, theres NO way he is going to tell that to the media

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

Great queston nepa, I wonder if it had anything to do with Cody?

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

extra point so there

Posted by Saheeb on October 13, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone know if the CU-KSU game is going to be televised? If so, is it just local, I assume?

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The schedule says its on FSN.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

saheeb

rockymountain fsn

Posted by BuffTime on October 13, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I have said multiple times, Cody will start his bright coaching career soon enough. In fact I see it as a big plus for CU to have him on the team just for that. He gives the team a "coach" that is allowed to work with them over the summer when other coaches are off limits.

Personally I can't wait until we have an elite QB in the program. If that is the one remaining factor to being an elite team, don't you think that is a huge selling point to recruits? Ballenger hasn't shown the spark yet, but he is still young. Hansen has some fans drooling but he is also still young. No way Hansen burns his redshirt this year. Not worth it. Ballenger will get more reps and all the chance he should need to supplant Cody if he is good enough. Nelson graduates this year.

We have some 3 stars coming in. If they are under-rated or have the tools and moxie to prove the recruiting sites wrong then that is a plus.

Fact is, we still have lots of needs in many positions. We need athletes, we need receivers who can stretch the field (we have some possession receivers already). We can never have enough linemen on either side of the ball (any one not agree with that one at this point?).

We are good at LB, though I still expect Cabral to reel in some more each class.

We are decent at RB enough that if we skip a year it shouldn't hurt.

We can always use good secondary players.

We have glaring needs for this year and next, and we have a program that is building without taking short cuts. Boulder is a great place to spend a few years and get an education. We will get the recruits we need and we will continue to grow and improve.

Since fish will assuredly ask, I will answer; Yes continued wins is a nice sign of improvement and I am still looking for 7+ wins this season. But there are other things to look at too. Since the O-line is hurting I look to the level of play of each position.

The secondary on defense has far surpassed my expectations for this year.

Special teams.. not so much. We need better coaching there for sure, that isn't a skill issue. We have the players that should be better than they are.

etc. etc.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BT good points

Special teams is a joke and you are correct we have the talent.

The QB position is the absolute key. Elite progams have elite QB personnel.

I also am pretty dang happy with the secondary play.

uh oh buffloes

Posted by vegasbufffan on October 13, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Difficult times for Colorado exposes two typs,

Those whom we already know the nebraska flamers.

The hot head pretenders ducking under the false pretence they are more realistic.

I know one thing the DAILY CAMERA normally is more critical of CU football then a nebraska flamer. Tells you something when at least THEY are being realistic about the situation. For that I give them credit.

As for the negative ones here, I am pretty confident non of you is a desision maker about anything important at any level.... At least I hope so.

Posted by Saheeb on October 13, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the TV info, guys. Good points BuffTime. I think what's most disappointing, or frustrating might be the better word, is that we're going backwards right now when everyone expected to see progress. Regardless of the W-L record, I think we all thought we'd see improvements across the board, especially in the offense. We'd all be able to swallow 3-3 at this point, given our schedule, if we saw us moving the ball, establishing a rhythm and identity, etc. But, despite starting 3-0, the only complete game in that stretch was the CSU beat down. That was a total game, and it gave hope that we would see signs of turning the corner and our improved talent start to show itself throughout the course of the season.

As easily as we could be 4-2 right now we could just as easily be 1-5 and have lost to D2 Eastern Washington. It's feeling unnervingly similar to 2006 when we couldn't move the ball at all and the defense played very well but was on the field way too much every game.

What's equally frustrating is that it's hard to analyze whether it's more inexperience and injuries or more Cody's play that is keeping us out of games. Sure, it's likely a combination of the three, and it's hard to say it's the QB when he's on the run all the time. But by the same token he's missed guys when he's had time, made some dumb decisions, and, when he has thrown to an open, but closely covered, receiver his lack of zip has has made the ball takes too long to get there, allowing the DB to close in and make a play on what should have been a catch.

Anyhow, there's still hope for sure this season and four of the next six are definitely winnable. Moreover, we are clearly headed in the right direction overall and getting good players into Boulder.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if the fans feel its legitimate to ask for improvement from the team, then the team should also expect improvement from the fans

unless Folsom sells out on Saturday, no one has any right to complain about anything that transpires

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You don't get sell outs unless you have a product people want to buy.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

.....nebraska has been selling out every game for the past 11 years and your telling me that they "have a product people want to buy?".......did i tell you story about farmers buying 'fools gold' or that swamp land in florida or how about that bridge in brooklyn???..how do look all those poor farmers and their families in the eyes after they have mortgaged their prized farmland for those "nifty" luxury boxes and "fancy" season tickets??are wins over new mexico and san jose state justification in these times of recession????

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

good comments saheeb.

Especially about the progress or lack thereof.
The QB position is so critical. Cody has done what he can. Make a change. Show us the backup cannot get it done. Show us something new.
Show us a offensive scheme that makes sense and is derived to enhance the talent available.

4 and 4 in the big 12 last year. Hawk talks progress constantly. 4 and 4 is not acceptable this year. Show us the progress.

You need at least 3 to get a bowl. The coaching staff needs to crank it up. You need to win 5 brother. This ain't intramural.

Go Buffs.

Nepa not sure you are correct, as usual.
The creams have the product they want?

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

buff4life as with the Sooners, Penn State, Alabama, UT, USC and few others that have been winning NC's for 50 plus years.

I don't think anyone doubts that NU will be back. They believe and still buy the tickets.

Coach Hawkins best get a winning season going or even the most die hard will lose faith.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, NU has 2 big 12 championships in the past 11 seasons. The fans still believe.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

....nebraska is going on 11 years with no "meaningful" wins, no BCS wins, no big 12 titles, no heismans, blown out by CU, texas tech and kansas, no wins over texas or oklahoma since the big 8 days, spitting players, tantrum having "bully" coaches, lineman headbutting other team's bandmembers, "throat slash" jestures.......and you are talking about our product and fan support being poor????? you are a delusional sad cody 'stalking' piece of work pal....i dont even think nebraska fans like you--stop embarassing them and please, please seek professional help.....i have never met a fan of any sport or team that 'bashes' another team when your team is such a mess, especially the team that you "bash" pounded your team less than 10 months ago.....bravo my friend, you are officially classified as a 'schmuck', and stop listening to 'stan'....come to his defense "softer and gentler" buff nation, he really needs it.... i know you have taken many rides in that smaller version yellow school bus growing up in scottsbluff cuz you just dont get it.....

Posted by Saheeb on October 13, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vkberlinn: I do think Cody is decent, but not the future. I think this KSU team, with a very porous defense, will really be the bellwether for Cody and his abilities. KSU is awful against the run. While our line is young and very inexperienced we should be able to generate enough of a running game to generate a balanced offensive attack. Speedy should hit the century mark. Their pass defense isn't great either.

So, this is the game, in my mind, where we should see if Cody, and the offense, can capitalize. There should be opportunities. And, we should be able to move the ball enough to give the defense a break. This SHOULD be the game where we can put together a complete game. If Cody cannot hit open receivers, or get the ball to those with just a step on the defender, then I hope it's a quick hook and we see what Ballenger can do with a game still in question. Sure, Ballenger hasn't lit it up completely when he's gotten in. But his stats say 8-12 for 118 yards and 1 TD and that's in about a quarter's worth of play in garbage time, right, but when defenses are mostly sitting back and waiting for you to throw.

Heck, Vanderbilt, ranked #22 and at 5-1, just switched QBs to jumpstart their offense! I'm not saying it's time to throw Cody under the bus completely, but if there are more miscues on his part this Saturday it can't hurt that much MORE to try Ballenger or Nick Nelson.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Buff4life,

I was only suggesting that if Hawkins would actually have a winning season, Folsom would sell out.

NU sells out because they have been winning for decades, 5 national championships, dozens of conference championships. The fans have a coach they believe in.

This was a response to BF's post.

And with several CU players suspended for violent acts, I would drop the holier than thou act.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

then why dont you act like a fan of a team that has won titles before instead of bashing the team that changed your programs "course" of history....oh and my bad, 10 years with no "meaningful" games, how about that texas or oklahoma stat?? whatever bro, keep making yourself and your program look bad by bashing colorado...

Posted by Saheeb on October 13, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One other comment, please, please stop giving it to Patrick Williams on the end around. He just doesn't have the vision/awareness to try to cut it up field. He has "Hugh Charles" syndrome. Give it to Speedy or Josh Smith or someone with some speed a elusiveness. Great kid, Williams, but he's not going to break runs for us.

Posted by nepabuff on October 13, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's just my assessment.

I think I've mentioned countless times, I'm no NU fan.

Posted by phibuffa on October 13, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FEELING GOOD, BUFFALO_FLYER!!

(Better late than never. Had to attend to some work).

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

saheeb - great points.

vandy made a change at qb after one loss and one inept showing. maybe it's because the backup is that good or maybe not, but coach thought it was best for a change?

clemson pushed bowden out the door after a pretty good ten-year run and a 3-3 start to this season. many things can be said about tommy, but he seemed to consistently serve up a "good" team and underachieve.

the buffs have had many years of "good" teams, and many, many years of losing teams. how about we set our expectations higher.

buff4life - i am not sure what kind of point you are making about the corn still selling out their stadium even through 11 years of mediocrity. they are tried and true fans, something the buffs are lacking. yeah - whatever on the "there's nothing better to do there" nonsense.

criticism of the team and coaches is not "bashing" colorado. folks like myself and whos and saheeb and vk and many others just want to see results. mangino was given time at KU, but that was KU - a perennial loser. he showed pretty steady progress, and the last four years have been great by their standards (would be great for these buffs!). we're talking KU. is that the program we want to compare ourselves to?

hawk came in here and there was better talent here than at KU. barnett did not leave the cupboard bare. it was think, yes, but not bare.

and by the way - does anybody remember what other D1 schools were making offers to Cody? weren't his choices limited to boise and CU? how many of you think he would be starting today at boise?

Posted by NJBuff on October 13, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The internet allows you to be an anonymous voice: “I can say what I want.” I'd like to see one of you guys that are complaining about the team into Dal Ward and tell them in person. You won't.

If you post on here more than 5 times in one day, you hate your job, you need to get laid and get a life.

I expect Hawkins to be the coach of the Buffs for 10 years. I expect Cody to be the starter for the rest of this year, with Ballenger spelling him. Competition will open up again in the Spring, and if Cody wins the job, he wins the job.

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i would be happy to have a face-to-face sit down with cody, the coaching staff, the team, whatever. you seem to be implying the kind of vitriol that takes place here would happen at dal ward.

i dig my job, need no help in the getting laid department, have a wonderful life, and love the buffs. i would like to support a winning team.

and i am damn sure glad that i do not live in new jersey.

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

even ringo's opening sentence is disingenuous: "The euphoric celebration after a win over a top-25 West Virginia team seems like a distant memory now for the Colorado Buffaloes, who haven't tasted victory since that blacked out Thursday night in Folsom Field nearly a month ago."

no one would even still consider wvu a top-25 team. yes, they were ranked coming in here, but they could barely get by syracuse this past weekend. in hindsight that was a nothing win - not much different than our ugly struggle against ewu.

come on buff fans - have some expectations.

Posted by GoBuffs08 on October 13, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow Fishsoup. I'm glad you have all the answers for coach Hawk and his squad...
You people think far too highly of yourselves. It is so very pathetic. If you are such a master of the football universe get out there and coach instead of spouting off all of your wisdom to the coaching staff and players. Trust me. They DO NOT READ THIS.

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on October 13, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

fishheadsoup, you are an idiot! Cody had offers from BYU, Ore., Wisconsin among others...Ballenger's only other offer was from idaho st.

get a clue

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i said i did not know. do you think he would be starting at any of the schools you just mentioned?

i have never said that i have all of the answers. what i have said is that the level of play we have seen this far under coach hawk, helfrich, etc. is below the expectations i think we were sold and the ones i believe many buff fans have.

i have said that i do not think cody has the arm strength, speed or height to play d1.

i have said that the game planning and execution on o looks terrible.

other than calling names, if you have anything to say about that, perhaps you might actually say something.

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

he had offers from Colorado, Boise State University, Brigham Young University, University of Oregon and University of Wisconsin but only made official visits to Boise State and Colorado.

does anyone think he would be the starting qb at any of those other schools?

Posted by AZBuff on October 13, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Having read all the comments about Hawkins, Cody, Helfrich ad nauseum I feel compelled to add the following. Dan Hawkins is the RIGHT COACH at this time for CU. This space doesn't allow me enough space to list all the reasons. He is only in the middle of his 3rd year. The seniors and juniors that are left from the Barnett era have bought into his program and the young recruits will improve with time. No coach that is hired after Jan. is able to recruit a top 25 to 50 class. The first real recruiting class was last Feb. Mangino is in his 7th year. Pinkel was hired in 2001. Sure we're all frustruated and mad but in todays college football business it takes time and effort to build a program with only 85 scholarships available. The cupboard was really bare for Hawkins just as it normally is at any school that makes a coaching change. That is why the change was made. The program was in bad bad shape from the athletic dept all the way up to the president of the university the last few Barnett years. This crap that because someone comes from a smaller school to coach a bigger program is just ludicrous. Successful coaches all over the country that were head coaches at small schools are now coaching at large Univ. Everyone starts somewhere. I am just as comfortable having a VERY!!! successful smaller college HEAD COACH as having some retread or asst coach from a large school coaching at CU. If any of you played the game you know that it is still blocking, tackling, running and kicking the ball at all levels. For those that are impatient I would advise you to find another school to monday morning quarterback as it is always painful to rebuild and that is what is occurring at CU.

Posted by AZBuff on October 13, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just to add to the previous post. I am a CU alumni and have been following CU football since Dal Ward was the coach. CU will never probably be a top 10 football program year in year out. I will elaborate on that at another time but suffice it to say that you can't compare the support for CU and Neb and other schools in the Big 12. They are all different and have differnt demographics etc.

Cody is the best we have and that is not too good at the moment but it certainly is better than we had 2 years ago. It is ridculous to state that Hawkins would sacrifice his job and all the other coaches jobs just to play his son over someone else that is better. If Cody can't do it then they will make a change and the results will be about the same as we have had up to now. Sorry but that is the reality of the situation. Also how many of you are at practice every day and watch hours and hours of film of the practices and the games? Quit living in dreamland and expecting the team to look good every game and win 9 or more games this year. I was hoping that we could have beaten all the teams we just lost to but football is not an easy sport where you just talk big and tough and are able to apply it to the playing field. I would hate to have some of you in a position of authority at CU as we would be changing coaches and players every couple of years. Be realistic look at other programs and what it has taken for them to rebuild and don't start reciting some of the successes at the perenial football factories. CU is not a football factory never has been never will be. It can be a quality program and have above average success most years and now and then it can contend for a BCS bowl and possibly a Natl. Championship.

Posted by GoBuffs08 on October 13, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow. Fishsoup did his research. You have once again proved your brilliance. You cracked the case Mr. Hardy Boy! The Hawkins Conspiracy to enter the Buff program and destroy it is nearly complete. Now. Lets be serious.
I admit, the offense looks weak. The experience these young boys are gaining (the youngest or MAYBE the second youngest offense in the country) is beyond valuable. Experience that WILL pay off. I am not going to offer my brilliant proposal on how to better execute offensive play as that is not my job. And it certainly isn't yours. Have a LITTLE just a TAD a tiny bit of perspective on these losses. NO ONE (at least those involved) enjoys seeing this program lose. MOST OF ALL the coaches and players, so stop acting like a bunch of whiney negative brats. Personal attacks and insults on the team and staff accomplish absolutely nothing. For those of you who think they read this and contemplate your brilliant plans on "what needs to change and who needs to play" need a serious reality check. Ballanger IS and HAS been given an opportunity to play and show what hes got. Do you think there MAY be a reason for that? Oh and of course, Hawk and co have devised a plan to not play Darrell Scott to tick all of you "fans" off. Your theories are absolutely ridiculous. Cody does have talent, it certainly hasn't shown in the past 3 games but he is the best option they have right now. You don't rip your starting QB out of the game and throw in a virgin, Ballanger again, is gaining experience, when he really shows something they won't hesitate to put him in. And I can gurantee that Cody wouldn't for ONE SECOND complain about it. He wants a winning program just as much as you whiney brats on this board who clearly don't have any sort of serious position in the corporate world as you have NOTHING better to do than spew off negative crap on a football website. Leave these teenage and early 20 something kids alone. For the love of God I can picture nothing more pathetic than a bunch of 30 or 40 something dudes who played highschool football sitting at their cubes thinking of the next spiteful complaint to spew on Buffzone. Give "the glass is half full" thinking a try.

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AZBuff - i appreciate your post in its honesty: "Be realistic look at other programs and what it has taken for them to rebuild and don't start reciting some of the successes at the perenial football factories. CU is not a football factory never has been never will be."

It's a shame, thought, that this IS the accepted reality from such a long-time supporter. I think this place can be a perennial winner and not have to compete for a national championship once every hundred years.

It's about expectations.

Posted by shoulder2shoulder on October 13, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fishheadsoup, Lets all come to grips, CU is not a top 10 program anymore. I will argue that Hawk was the best this program could/can get. He took over a program that had stopped recruiting (no o-line and lets remember Klatt was a walk on and no real talent at wr.) We can all agree that Coach Hawk has improved the talent level through recruiting, but that talent is young! You are right Cody is not a top d1 QB, but he is the best we have and he is working with young talent. If he had Hacket and McCoy he would look a lot better. As much as i think cody is the best we have now, I know things will change soon, Hansen will play next year and one of the commits at qb we have this year will challenge. Don't be suprised if in the next 2years cody and ballenger will be battling for 3rd string, but not much we can do now but support the players that are ready to play today. Go to the games, cheer, donate money etc....

Posted by GoBuffs08 on October 13, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said AZBuff. Well said.

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

shoulder2shoulder - i do go to the games (26 yrs and counting - sometimes travel), donate money, cheer damn hard. CU has rarely been a top 10 program, but i do not think it's a bad thing to want it to be.

i have noted many times that i think hawk has done a great job recruiting thus far (ricardo patton recruited well too), brings a renewed enthusiasm and came in with great potential.

i hope you're right that "things will change soon." so far, it looks like more of the same, only at least with gary you knew what to expect week in and week out.

Posted by Buff_bronc_fan on October 13, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Saheeb-- I agree, but I'll take that a step further... How about we just never give the ball to Pat Williams... Period.

He's had 4 years to live up to potential and he hasn't even come close. That kid has dropped more balls than he has caught.

Of course, the sad reality of the situation is that we really have NO ONE to replace him. With Simas inelligibe and Celestine going back to Louisianna, that's just one more position that we're paper thin at.

Ugh. Tough time to be a Buffs fan.

Posted by GoBuffs08 on October 13, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Side note but did anyone see KU's "touchdown" that WASNT actually a touchdown? Replay showed that (almost positive it was Jake Sharp rushing into the endzone) Sharp was a good yard - maybe more short of the endzone... Bad call by the refs in what was the third TD for KU... not saying it was a huge difference maker but that was when the score was 16-14.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey AZbuff, whats worse these days, the buffaloes lamentations or the sundevils?

and GoBuffs08 - the play before the non-touchdown was on obvious offsides and not called

Posted by BuffTime on October 13, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Saw it. Yet another bad call by the refs that didn't go the Buffs way. If anyone posts something about the "5th down" against Mizzou I will just laugh. Every team every year gets some and loses some of those calls. We have had some go the other way pretty much every game and probably had a few go our way that shouldn't have. When it involves a touchdown though, there should be an automatic review. KU knew they didn't score and just hurried up the extra point to make it a moot point.

Posted by buffalo_flyer on October 13, 2008 at 5:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hawk has only 2 full recruiting years under his belt, that first year was only a month or so

Posted by GoBuffs05 on October 13, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In addition to the non-call on that touchdown, it would've been nice to get some of those fumbles KU had. One of them literally bounced back up into the guy's hands. When it rains, it pours.

Posted by AZBuff on October 13, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thefishheadsoup, I did not say that CU can't be a top quality program. I am just saying that it will take time to rebuild (more than you seem to have wanted to give them eg. 2 1/2 years) and that once they are a quality program they will more likely be about what it was like during the productive McCartney years. Win 9 or more games and also contend for BCS bowls and if the stars are aligned right a Natl. Championship. If you you have been with them for 26 years you know the peaks and valleys. I don't think you or anyone else is being fair or very objective about the program when after 2 1/2 years things aren't happening fast enough that we need to be advocating "off with their heads". I don't want to talk about the other programs in the country I only want CU to succeed and it will only happen with sticking with what we have committed to. Eddie Crowder on his deathbed said "Hawk your the man for the job". I think that is prophetic and it has to be played that way or we will be continual wannabes looking for the next great messiah coach to lead us from the wilderness. All of you out there let the guy coach!!!!

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I see the tide has turned here back in favor Hawk and Cody. I ran all my best smack on Saturday but will say this: I love the spectrum of opinions. Some posters are really running it. Black and Gold has moved on to the front page of the board for sure-good reads and funny too. Some of the others like really suck but it's not personal. It's hard to agree with people that are smart but have opinions we dont like. So please take that in the way it was meant.
The game Saturday is for real. The tone about "the meeting" indicates that Bird knows the time is now. We lose Saturday and we lose the senior class (these guys have been through some #@it), waste DS year of eligiblity, have virtually no shot at a bowl and worse for Cody fans-leave no real reason for Cody to play since this is all a tune up for next year. Hawk will get crushed if we finish 3-9 and no one else played QB except his scrub kid. Ouch. Take KSU and the points - put me on record. I can still be a die hard 25 year fan and still sniff a little dog in this team. Sorry guys....Hawk has lost this team and the proof will be on the field.

Posted by lobobuff on October 13, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK, everybody, pour a scotch (heck pour a double, this is long), or whatever your proclivity for a libation is, and contemplate the following: Just how young, inexperienced, talented, and banged-up are the Buffs? I’m just going to focus on the offense, because that’s where everyone on this board believes the problem is. My source is the Colorado Buffaloes Sports Information Services. For the sake of discussion, I’m counting sophomores as underclassmen below, even if they previously red shirted.

Youth and experience:

When the Buffs broke camp to begin the 2008 season, they listed 16 seniors, 19 juniors, 25 sophomores and 51 freshmen (including 26 RS Frosh) on a 111-man roster. There were 14 returning starters (those with five-plus starts and were regulars or starting at the end of 2007.) – 6 on offense (Geer, Hawkins, McKnight, Miller, Sanders, Williams). That leaves alot of underclassmen on the depth charts. Where are they?

On offense, on the two-deep roster posted before the Kansas game, they had upperclassmen (juniors or seniors) listed in the two-deep in the TE (both juniors) grouping and two seniors listed in one WR grouping. Groupings may enter a game to run a play based on the situation and not based on their position on the depth chart. Want a possession receiver? Only Patrick Williams is over 6 feet tall. The only other position on offense with upperclassmen listed on the two-deep is fullback with a junior and senior. The QBs and RBs (except for Moyd) are all underclassmen; only Hawkins is a returning starter.

What about injuries and other losses?

On offense, gone for the season are Iltis, Miller and Tuioti-Maxwell Faatagi is academically ineligible and never saw the field as a Buff. All were on the OL. WR Celestine quit.

Is the above impacting depth and ability to substitute in the OL? How about schemes, situational play calling, and consistency of execution? Your QBs are an undersized sophomore who is not playing well right now, a RS frosh who admits he still isn’t ready to go, and a JUCO transfer who is there only to play if the other two go down. In light of the above, is this an offense that can sustain and execute 15-play drives? Who do you play? In what situation? Who can you depend on for the big play? Whoever you play and when, he is surrounded by youth and inexperience everywhere. If you are an opposing defensive coordinator; how do you play the Buffs? Think the other teams’ coaches are idiots and haven’t figured this team offensive strengths and weaknesses out?

You be the judge. Now, back to that scotch, happy Columbus Day and…

Go Buffs

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 6:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Neil or Kyle-is there a list of current redshirt players that can be pasted here or on another site?

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Been a buff fan since 1975 when I moved here.

The only differece between now and then is........................................

The existence of these stupid blogs where you can babble all your babble read other babble, read your own babble, answer other babble, answer your own babble, babble on about other peoples babble and believe or reject any babble for any babblous reason.

Uh Oh Buffaloes

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

....while some of you football "brainiacs" try and get a collection together to buyout hawk, just a ridiculous concept, and arent we still paying gary?? oh and colorado has so much money to play with that heck lets just start over, hey maybe the auburn coach will come to boulder, come on tommy dont you want to live in the most beautiful state in the union?? but have to deal with occasional 'dimwit' buff fan?? but you have 2 maybe three years or we will run you outta dodge also my friend....WE WANT A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP RIGHT NOW!!!!!!....anyway check out lawerence vickers on monday night football, love that kid!!..

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

...fight CU down the field......CU must win.......fight fight for victory.....CU knows no defeat....we'll roll up a mighty score......never give in......SHOUDLER2SHOUDLER.....we will ALWAYS..FIGHT!FIGHT!....FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!...........its time like these to really be a COLORADO BUFFALO fan!!!!!WE SHALL PREVAIL--NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE DETERMINATION AND THE WILL OF AN ANGRY WOUNDED BUFFALO!!!

Posted by salsajohn on October 13, 2008 at 7:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dan Hawkins has done a very poor job coaching the past three weeks. I didn't expect we'd win any of those games, but we looked down right awful for most of the past 12 quarters. CU's preparation is questionable, but his player selection is downright disgusting.

Cody Hawkins is not playing well PERIOD. All I hear are excuses for his poor play. The FACT is, Cody has regressed since 2007. Forget improvement, he has literally regressed as a player and his head is not right. I don't know much about Ballenger or the other QBs, but I do know that Cody has played himself a deserved trip to the bench.

Then there is Sumler, who is getting PT and carries he has not earned or deserves. Ditto to Cody Crawford. Maybe Scott, Smith, McKnight and Williams are all injured (maybe), but I fully expect these two scout teamers to be phased out very soon and for good. But based on the guys he plays, I'm not holding my breath. Dan Hawkins does not play guys that earn it like he says. The Cody's and Sumler have not earned their PT.

I hear the injury excuse the most, but did injuries force Cody Hawkins to overthrow wide open WR's vs FSU, did they force Crawford to hand the ball to a Kansas CB, did they force Sumler to fall down at the first hint of contact?

Based on their recent play, sending Crawford, Sumler to Cody Hawkins to the bench will make CU instantly more capable.

Posted by buff4life on October 13, 2008 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

......young buffaloes growing up--earning their "hooves"......stay strong young buffs as we grow stronger together.......IN HAWK WE TRUST............go buffs........some of us believe in you!!!---SHOULDER2SHOULDER........

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

buff4life

good point

Tell him not to bring his dad

Posted by salsajohn on October 13, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And Nepatalli, your Big Pink boys lost again and are 3-3. Just like all of us told you they would be at this point. Moral victories my as*. How about a moral victory for their worst home loss in the program’s history just 9 days ago.

Big Pink will lose badly to Oklahoma, Kansas and at least one of their 3 games vs Baylor, at KSU or CU. They'll finish 6-6 and 2-6 in conference. They’ll go to the North Dakota Bowl and lose that too. Then they’ll graduate their QB and RB and go 4-8 in 2009.

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

buff 4 life-we know the song. Can anyone on this site admit publicly that they are hoping we suck this week so Bird gets some real heat. BTW-I am NOT calling for a firing-just an attitude adjustment. Can anyone admit that they have some secret dark hallway in their derelictive little mind that is actually against the Buffs so that they are then still even more than ever for the Buffs? Do ya' get it??? I will publicly list my name as well for those that have called me a coward. If not I will remain forever yours-

Houston.

PS-older buffs-I could have gotten you all your money back had you played my Texas/Florida sweep Saturday. Buy bonds-your next president will need the money to fund this atrocious mess.

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

houston - sell your house in galveston. oh sorry, i'm a little late on that. hawk = icarus. he will fly too high.

bonds? i got out of the market 16 months ago - bought euros. i say look at commodities - sugar, coffee, wheat, pigs. you know when times get tough look to the necessities.

i hope we beat the wildcats. i won't yet reach into the darkness that certainly lives there just to burn poor icarus.

Posted by BEL on October 13, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is unfortunate that a small minority of bashers have managed to hijack these football forums. I would estimate that nearly 90% of the negative posts are being made by only 3 or 4 individuals. Two of these bashers, WhosYourDaddy and Nepabuff (using multiple aliases) have been doing this from the first moment that Hawk and Cody stepped onto campus. I used to think that these bashers were fans from a rival school, but not anymore. No one can possibly continue to engage in such relentless and protracted bashing of Hawk and Cody without having some deeply personal issues or problems relating to Hawk's hiring.

These bashers speak of trying to save the world from this insidious thing called nepotism. Give me a break! They don't really give a hoot about nepotism. Their accusations of nepotism have been conveniently set up as a hollow straw man argument to lend some sort of fake credence to their attacks. Their real motive and most fervent wish is to see Hawk and Cody fail. They willfully engage in spreading false rumor and innuendo (e.g. Hawk drove Brian White away because Hawk told him that Cody would be the starting QB next year, Hawk benched Hugh Charles last year for questioning Cody's competence, Hawk is greatly upset because Helfrich put Ballenger into the game against Texas, etc., etc.).

One would think that a truly objective and reasonable Buff fan would have at least given Hawk and Cody a reasonable amount of time before passing judgment. But no, these bashers have in their infinite wisdom already told us that Hawk and Cody are no good. Despite their protestations to the contrary, these bashers are not true Buff fans. These bashers are never happy or say anything positive when Hawk's team wins. But, when the team loses, watch out -- the vitriol and poison comes pouring out.

Yes, Hawk is as good a coach as we could have gotten. The cynics may snicker and sneer at "Hawk Love", but there is a purpose and method in what Hawk does. In industrial psychology, there is the "Pygmalion Effect". When your boss thinks highly of you, you tend to perform well on the job. When your boss thinks you are incompetent, your work performance will suffer due to a negativity that creeps into your mindset. This team needs Hawk love more than ever at this moment in time. Oh yeah, I know that the cynics will tell me that I live in a fantasy world, but frankly I don't care what the cynics think. And, I hope that Hawk ignores the cynics, too. Stick to your principles and beliefs, Hawk! The opinions of the masses are often ignorant.

Cynics like WhosYourDaddy and Nepabuff will continue to wallow in their negativity. They will never be leaders among men because true leadership involves inspiring others to live and perform at a higher level. It does not entail browbeating and constantly pointing out other people's perceived deficiencies.

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

fish-had enough of that. You think that's funny ha-ha. Hope your kids get cancer-how's that taste? I always included you in the bad poster club anyway. BTW-you can find 5.25% munis with no taxes if you do some work. I got out too in 11/07 and paid off my house and your wife's dental work so it wouldnt scrape. Watch what you say next time you moron.

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bel-the premise of pygmalion was that the "master" was actually in charge. Some would say your theory fails at the door. Great takes but the theory works only when the characters know their lines.

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bel

Exactly.

What?

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Every kid that ever played a sport and the coach's kid played: point guard, pitched, played QB or center forward, either made that kid the best or created a failed relationship with the team. We can see that now. A suggested thesis to the students that read this thread. Make this team his project and prove up one of the truest golden facts in sports. These kids are one or two years from high school and mature enough to see this from their own lives. How can anyone refute this age old fact in sports? I think of either end-Elway-whose dad sent him away so he would not stunt John or Maranovich would was bent on ruining his son. Both prove above point. Can ANYONE give facts to the contrary?

Posted by montanabuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vk - I’m glad you’re here.

I owe you an apology.

Last week, you posted a concern about my listing my website in this forum. You indicated that someone who is getting paid should not be taking advantage of this free site. I wrote back, insisting that I am not getting paid for www.cuatthegame.com.

I checked with my CS major who is handling the heavy lifting for the website, and he confirmed that I am getting “paid” for the Google ads. Not from the visits to the site, but when someone clicks on one of their rotating ads. As most viewers, myself included, ignore the ads on the side of the page, the payback is nominal. So far, the revenue for the season is south of $50.00. At this rate, considering the $$ put into the creation of the site and paying for a logo design, I should break even on the website sometime around 2023!

It is not my intention to make money from the website, merely to share some stories, trivia, and CU history. You were correct in pointing out, though, that I am getting “paid” for my efforts.

I hope you will accept my apology.

MB

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hb

Lou holtz and his son

George bush and his son

bum phillips and his son

there are a billion of em.

especially from texas

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mb
I knew it
I also suspected you were making little or no cash

no apology required. Just a jab eh?

Your site is quite nice.

go buffs.

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MT- I give your site a great plus with the side bars of old newspaper clips. the 86 win of the NU game was clutch because I remember how cold it was and several guys in the south end zone were arrested for throwing snow balls. I giggle now when I hear about the "brazen" fans that throw shirts that barely make the sideline. Can you find a pic of the oranges when we beat OU the next year on Thanksgiving weekend???

Posted by vkberlinn on October 13, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hb

You giggle?

Sweet

Posted by houston_buff on October 13, 2008 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vk-you make my point. Bra'-I am from Greeley. Your mentions are about dad's that pushed their sons out. Lou, Bum and GW never coached their sons except in intramurals. I have coached kids, umpired college baseball and seen first hand. I have intentionally been on the sidelines ever since my kids started with sports because I dont want to be "that dad".

Posted by pdxbuff on October 13, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did you see Gundy on the sidelines scheming that TD pass play OSU invented to beat Mizzou? I think we are being out coached on game day pretty consistantly. We are having trouble adjusting. Defense is OK and if they got any help from the offense we could win 6 games still. Need some offensive creativity. All kinds of sets have not been tried.

Posted by WhosYourDaddy on October 13, 2008 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BEL - The word "cult" is defined as "a devoted attachment to, or extravagent admiration for a person." It's one thing for you to want to be part of something that you admire like the CU football team, but your refusal to objectively analyze facts and your constant gushing over Hawkins borders on cult behavior.

Try to think for yourself and stop fawning over the Hawkins!

BTW, I have never used another user name and don't intend to. If I wasn't afraid of having my house fire-bombed by cultists like you for having the temerity to say something other than "Go Hawk!" I'd gladly use my real name.

If you don't like what I'm saying tough luck! It's free country (at least until you have your way!).

Posted by vegasbufffan on October 13, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since Colorado hung 62 points on nu, the huskers have not defeated a SINGLE TOP TWENTY TEAM. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

That one game sent them to the dumps for good. Which explains the obsession and bitterness.

It also explains what pathethic lives nebraskans have to keep on packing the stands when they know they have a bo-nehead of a coach who will lose.

Now days they are excited when they lose but its close. How sad is that??

Obviously the antidepressants are not working for you nepa.

Posted by Saheeb on October 13, 2008 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AZBuff and other posters: I agree. We are still definitely a program on the way up. And, I thoroughly believe Hawkinds is the right coach and going to do great things for the Buffs. I think Cody could be pretty effective with an experienced line and some playmakers around him. But, I don't know that he's our long term solution.

Supporters of him are right, though, he's much better than B. Jax and Cox for sure. And, we have recruited some QBs with potential, definitely. I also think we have the makings of an excellent secondary next year and the following. Cha'pelle Brown, Smith, Jalil Brown, Wright, Stevens, Hicks, et al. The cup is still very much half full, I would say. It's just tough when much of your talent is hurt or a true freshman and the beginning showed real progress. Knock of KSU, ISU, A&M and Nebraska -- that would be impressive given the injuries, etc.

To those who think critism is disloyalty I would disagree. I don't think this board serves much purpose if it's just an online pep rally. I doubt the players read this. I come here to hear Buff fans' insights, analysis and opinions. When you've lost three straight, a couple in very frustrating fashion, I think you've got to expect some questions. Go Buffs!

Posted by thefishheadsoup on October 13, 2008 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

houston - mother dead - cancer - doubt she needs the dental work. hope my children don't suffer the same fate - they certainly shouldn't suffer the sins of their father's poor humor, poor judgement, bad decisions.

always good to be reminded to look in the mirror though. thanks.

like most they're times i don't like what i see - but i am man enough to look with self-effacement.

go buffs.

Posted by vegasbufffan on October 1